Baker Blue Streak 3665D

[Ga Mtn Man]

Are the "presets" adjustable by the user?

[4x4American]

That does help, thanks.  And I would love to see a video!

[SineWave]

I went to the Paul Bunyan Show and watched the sawmill shoot out...

Well, dang it. I'm building a mill and wanted to go to that show this weekend to look at all the different designs and maybe pick up a few ideas for designing my mill, but now I gotta stick around for this miserable hurricane! Looks like we may need to dog down the hatches, TmbrCruiser...

[Carson-saws]

The old setworks on the 3638 dont have a core.  But the new one the 3665 has very good setworks.  I can't imagine cutting without it now.  The dragback as well.  We didn't have that on the lt40 or the b20.

But we are in it for production.  I liked cutting with the others for custom work but when we headed into production the 2" was the way to go.

We run 2" .055 7* turbos from WM.  Woodmizer has a real fine blade right there.

Brian

What year is the mill with no core setwork?...I have always had the core and my first mill with setworks was a 2004.  I agree totally on the BAKER setworks...really user friendly.  For what few times I have had to call for a service question,  it was resolved.  What impresses me even more about BAKER is if and when they do have an upgrade, they let you know and it always just makes it even better. 

[jclvsall]

Sorry for the delay. Been a long week.  Rook delivery of the resaw. 

Yes the sets and cores are programable to 16ths i think. 

Here are pics of the setup.  You clear it with the reset togle on mill the set you board thickness and then the core you want to leave and then jog it with the joystick.

[4x4American]

Looks simple enough to get the hang of

[Carson-saws]

Yupp.......that's the set up.....like I have mentioned...very user friendly and accurate...nice set up you have jclvsall....good to share with a BAKER guy....does typical maintenance pretty much keep "down time"  less of a worry for you too?...

[jclvsall]

Carson Saws yes we do have typical maintinence.  Every once in a while a blade break will cut the drive belt.  Or something will bend the alluminum movable guide mount and needs replaced.

We have had a couple issues with Cummins engineering. 

Several upgrades we had to make were to add a poly blade keeper at the top to keep the blade off the clutch housing.  Any cavitation in the blade caused it to hit the clutch.  Our clutch we noticed after about 400 hours had a good groove started.  We added the keeper to fix that.

Second was adding an idle wheel scraper.

Third we went to 7* Turbo woodmizer blades. 

For the most part we dont have much down time.  Our one problem has been with the hydraulic pump that Cummins has on here.  For some reason we keep spinning the splines off the shaft. Baker has been good to us despite the fact that it is all part of the package they get from Cummins.  We are working at having Cummins look at it.

Otherwise we have very little down time. 

[Carson-saws]

jclvsall.....The wheel scraper now is a weighted scraper and works real good.  I can relate to prior set up and how it would sometimes pack the wheel.  We used to keep an eye on it and hand scrape after a few hours but now the scraper set up eliminates that.   One of the mods I did myself was...because it is year round the summer heat was a burden on the setworks only because there was no"air in" fan to keep it cool.  The "air out" fan helped eliminate that but I went ahead and installed an "air in" fan and use nylon stocking as a filter, and simply wired it to the existing fan.  Never had any problems to speak of before but did find the control box to get pretty dern warm so I thought I would address it before a problem occurred.  I could go on and on about how much I like the BAKER portable...as I am sure others could about which ever mill they own...again..as long as you are safe, smiling and gettin the job done, makes NO difference what you're running.

[jclvsall]

Could you post a pic of the weighted scraper.  Would love to see it.

Had a great day today at the mill.  Cutting a 10mbf order of 10x10 timbers and 12/4 lumber as side boards.  Really keeps the loader moving  8)

[4x4American]

How do you change the chainsaw chain on the debarker?  I've been wondering about that one for awhile, and was reminded this past weekend when I was looking at the 3665 where I used to work...well I guess I still work there I was setting up the new Cook's sharpening equipment there lol

[jclvsall]

On ours you remove the bolts from the bottom of the disk the chain is on.  The disc falls off with the chain. 

[4x4American]

What is yours the 3665?  A newer one?


How accurate are the setworks btw?

[jclvsall]

2009 3665 with cummins 

The setworks are very accurate.

[4x4American]

How does it measure where the headrig is at and control how far the headrig drops do you know? 

[jclvsall]

I have not torn into it.  I dont know what kind of position sensor it has.    It rides on ball screw.

[4x4American]

Ok cool, yea just been curious

[4x4American]

Does weather affect the accuracy of the set?  Like say on a cold morning then a warm afternoon does it need to be calibrated?

[xlogger]

On my TK after I warm the Hyd oil up some on cold morning my setworks work fine. Sometimes its fine not so warm. When I first got my mill I did have problem being off sometimes. But after about 100 hours or a little more it improved a lot. I think on TK the white blocks that ride up and down on the 4 post head are a little too tight when new.
Just wondering does the WM setworks have to be adjusted on cold morning? If so how do you do it? I have a friend that has one, maybe I can help him if you have to do that.

[4x4American]

No, the WM setworks is great.  It uses a transducer to measure in 1/32" increments.  Very accurate.  I wasn't sure if the Baker's setworks moved the headrig by timing the opening of a hydraulic valve like yours does.  The WM setworks knows right where the head is at and if the head didn't get there it will bring it there.  I have been very impressed with it's accuracy. 

[jclvsall]

Our setworks on the 3665 never varies.  It's height reading was off slightly when the carriage wheels had worn but that was not the setworks fault.

[ladylake]

 Setworks accuracy and how well they work is real important on a mill, nothing more aggravating than have to reboot or reset them in the middle of sawing . Both my B20 and my brothers TK 2000 are dead on and work all of the time after some troubles right at first which were figured out and fixed with some help from this forum.  I was over at another mill with a almost new mill and wanted to see how thick he cut his 1" lumber, couldn't believe it but the whole stack varied from 1" to 1 1/4" thick in 8' long boards. With my mill when I set it on 1" the boards come out 1 1/32" every time.  Good to know the Baker setworks are accurate and work good with out rebooting them.  Steve

[tmbrcruiser]

I have cut about 10,000 bf with the mill (3650E Baker) since setting the mill. I am so happy with the ease the mill cuts lumber and consistency of the mill. The set works were easy to learn and lumber doesn't vary. Well I should say the lumber doesn't vary as long as I turn the log when I see stress. I cut about 1,500 bf of river birch found it to need turning more than other species. When I see thickness vary from end to end on lumber I believe this is related to stress moving the log not the accuracy of the set works. Baker and their support team get 100% endorsement from me.

[4x4American]

This is all good info, I wasn't sure about Baker's setworks and user friendliness of it.  I don't like how the operator is only in one spot though.  I like how the 70 super allows you the option to saw towards yourself or away, so that if you have a tail man or don't, you can be out of the way or tail the mill yourself.


Does the Baker have cruise control?

[xlogger]

Only seen one baker running. The guy didn't use the setworks, it had a large wheel with the inch gauge on it that even a old guy like could see.