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Who has made the most diesel engines?

Started by Skidder Kev, January 22, 2016, 06:15:24 PM

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Skidder Kev

The boss and I have a on going friendly arguement about who has made the most diesel engines he says Yanmar I say Kubota Is either right??  I have tried to google it but don't really come up with much.  What do you guy's think??

Thanks Kev

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Don_Papenburg

What about cat?  They have been building diesels for a long time.
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sandsawmill14

my guess would be detroit :) they were used on everything imaginable especially during the 2nd world war
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red

There are a lot of GM 6.2 L and 6.5L military vehicles . So parts will always be available and cheap.  It was nothing special but lots of them.
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Onthesauk

Could be Yanmar given the variety of sizes they've built over the years, from little tractors up through container ships.
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Bruno of NH

I would think maybe some thing German
A lot of diesel rigs in Europe
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sandsawmill14

yanmar claims  over 15 million engines sold since 1933.  i still think gm/ detroit  for sure if you count the engine class red mentioned and not just the 2 strokes.  fyi gm built over 57,000 detroit diesel engines in 1943 :o that was many more than i would have expected :D
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fishpharmer

I think Benz invented the diesel engine.  They have sold many military, marine and civilian diesels.  They could be in the running too.

Correction: Rudolph Diesel invented the diesel engine. Not Benz.  Kills my argument.  :D

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sandsawmill14

Quote from: fishpharmer on January 22, 2016, 09:17:39 PM
I think Benz invented the diesel engine.  They have sold many military, marine and civilian diesels.  They could be in the running too.

Correction: Rudolph Diesel invented the diesel engine. Not Benz.  Kills my argument.  :D

but he worked for deutz another definate contender :) and also probably the oldest by about 30-40 yrs
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starmac

My money would be on detroit, even without including the gm diesels, which were not detroits.
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sandhills

I'd have to go with Detriot also, but have no clue to be honest.

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Detroit diesel is rated at 5 million produced since 1938.

Here's something to consider.  In 2014, there were 72.3 million cars produced worldwide.  17.8 million of those were in Europe where 50% of the marker is for diesels.  Germany produced 5.5 million of them.  In 2010, worldwide production of diesel units, not including cars or minivans was 12.1 million units.  1/3 of that production was in China, but that has been a recent trend.  1/4 of the production was in Europe.  Japan and North America was way far behind.  The recent Volkswagen recall is for 11 million diesels, primarily in their Jetta units. 

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timberlinetree

I was shocked that the voltswagon might win! :D
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Volts wagon has supplied diesel engines for other manufacturers as well. I had a Volvo with a VW diesel.

sandsawmill14

ron that number sounds to low but may be completely accuarate because i dont know ??? ;D :D :D i do know that detroit sold their 1 millionth 60 series engine in the mid 2000s( 08 or 09  i think). the 5 million would show production almost flat from 1943 levels to present  :)
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  A few years ago I read some trivia facts, worldwide who owns the most trucks; Coke, worldwide who has made the most trucks; Tonka.
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sandsawmill14

i wore out 3 of those tonka tucks myself also one of their cranes they were good trucsk only thing that wasnt steel was the wheels  :D :D :D

ron my last comment was not meant to be argumentative i guess just hope one of our engines would come out on top :)
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Ron Wenrich

I found it on Wikipedia, so you know it has to be accurate.   ;)  I thought it sounded low, but it seems to be a well researched page.  Detroit engines are more on the commercial line and last a long time.  So, it seems there isn't as much turnover as compared to Volkswagen, Mercedes, or other car type of diesels.  Also, a broader market for the cars. 
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coxy

I would think there was 5mill big rigs on the road alone with Detroits in them  :)

mad murdock

auto diesel engines, I would say VW.  Heavy truck/industrial, I would say Detroit or Cat.  Light industrial and light/medium truck I would guess Mercedes Benz. Just about every reefer van and reefer rail car is benz diesel,  Heavy marine, I would go with Fairbanks/Morse.
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currantvt

Another candidate is Lister, when I was working in Africa back in the 70s it seemed every village's water  supply was dependent on an 8hp single cylinder chugging away at 650rpm 24/7/365 - they may have been a victim of their own success as they never wore out so were not replaced. Listeroid's are still made in India, not sure if that counts though.

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Quote from: customsawyer on January 23, 2016, 01:43:28 PM
I have never seen the whole forum stumped before. I love it.

I said Volkswagen and moved on.  :D
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Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on January 23, 2016, 02:42:50 PM
Quote from: customsawyer on January 23, 2016, 01:43:28 PM
I have never seen the whole forum stumped before. I love it.

I said Volkswagen and moved on.  :D

but you came back :D :D :D
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Quote from: sandsawmill14 on January 23, 2016, 02:44:11 PM
Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on January 23, 2016, 02:42:50 PM
Quote from: customsawyer on January 23, 2016, 01:43:28 PM
I have never seen the whole forum stumped before. I love it.

I said Volkswagen and moved on.  :D

but you came back :D :D :D

Just picking up my bread crumbs.  ;D
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Skidder Kev

wow thanks for all the replies. All I have found so far on Kubota is it made its 10 million engine in 1987 doesnt say if it is just diesel or gas. and then in 2002 it exceded 20 mil industrial engines.  but doesn't specify gas or diesel either.   You would figure with all the info on the web you would be able to find something on it. 

Kev

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But we do know which is termed as the most powerful Diesel engine ever built:  LINK
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Maybe the mfgrs. hesitant to post numbers on this?
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In my area the reefer engines are mostly Kubota.
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 Found on the web where Perkins in the 1990,s had made 15 mil engines .
Cat bought them in 1998.
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Roxie

Certainly don't know a lot about diesels, but at the area tractor pulls, they make Detroit's compete in their own separate class.  No regular tractor would out pull them.  Love to hear them under load.   :)
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mad murdock

I don't know who built the most, but here is a link to the biggest http://www.amusingplanet.com/2013/03/the-largest-and-most-powerful-diesel.html
a touch over 108,000 HP. that would swing a big saw blade 8)
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Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on January 23, 2016, 02:45:35 PM
Quote from: sandsawmill14 on January 23, 2016, 02:44:11 PM
Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on January 23, 2016, 02:42:50 PM
Quote from: customsawyer on January 23, 2016, 01:43:28 PM
I have never seen the whole forum stumped before. I love it.

I said Volkswagen and moved on.  :D

but you came back :D :D :D

Just picking up my bread crumbs.  ;D
you said voltswagon  not volkswagon so it does not count  ;D :)

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Don_Papenburg

If you are counting all of GM diesel engines you have to include Electromotive . They made a lot of rail engines
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Quote from: isawlogs on January 23, 2016, 07:58:19 PM
   Its the goat in him that makes it hard to use spell check.... He must, at times, be forgiven... But not too often as they can get acustomed to reassonable accommodation! ;)

A Frenchman talking to an American Goat about spell check???

Thats unreassssssonable.  :D
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starmac

I still say detroit has to be right up there, untill their 2 cycle line was pretty much outlawed they were used worldwide in about every applicitation you can find a need to power from 2 cylinders, to at least 16. I don't know how to find the numbers, but I would bet that detroit has put a couple of million or more out since the Penske bought it and the 2 cycles were discontinued.

Heck, I own at least 3 detroits myself, what in the world would I do with that many voltswagons or mercedes? lol
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Quote from: starmac on January 23, 2016, 11:19:08 PM
I still say detroit has to be right up there, untill their 2 cycle line was pretty much outlawed they were used worldwide in about every applicitation you can find a need to power from 2 cylinders, to at least 16. I don't know how to find the numbers, but I would bet that detroit has put a couple of million or more out since the Penske bought it and the 2 cycles were discontinued.

I think the big Detroit/GM designed two-cycle engines are still being manufactured in the USA by EMD.

A weird one for you is that EMD was once a GM company, and is now a division of CAT

cowtipper

Isuzu has had a good name in the diesel engine field for long time and had built over 23 million diesels since its predecessor developed Japan's first air-cooled automotive diesel engine in 1936.

Detroit has built more than 5 million engines since 1938 and currently has more than 1 million engines in operation worldwide...  https://www.demanddetroit.com/About/press/fastfacts.aspx

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