Telescopic boom loader.

Satamax · January 01, 2016, 12:20:50 PM

If you're worried about the welding, you could do dot welding, like for cast iron. Do 1/4" to 1/2" weld on each side to hold in place, let it cool down. Do another dot on each side, when cooled etc. You start your dots on the end of previous ones. That's how you weld some types of cast irons. It only affects a tiny surface at a time. Plus, on that side, with the forks acting as levers, you're in a zone of compression. Not traction, so, metal, even embritelled by the welding is in compression, and support this type of load far better.

longtime lurker · January 01, 2016, 03:18:29 PM

Me, I'd figure out a clamp system that goes across the fork tyne and aroudn the frame and was held by a bolt.... welding those forks is not impossible but its difficult to get a really good weld.

If you feel the urge to weld find someone who is set up to do underwater arc and welding hardened steel aint an issue. Probably be more issue finding someone who does it and knows what they're doing then in doing it.
If you want to do it at home:
Use low hydrogen rods, rather then MIG.
Preheat the weld area first, and let it cool down real slow after welding.

... while you got the welder out. :D

Kbeitz · January 01, 2016, 06:25:02 PM

I like the picture with the clevis pin . I would make up two brackets that looks like
this and slide it over your forks (forks through the hole). Then I would replace the clevis
pin with a large bolt. It would do the same job with no welding on the forks.

Dave Shepard · January 01, 2016, 06:38:55 PM

At some point in this game, it will be better to just by the right fork carriage, rather than come with what amounts to a serious compromise. I didn't notice if the machine has a JRB style coupler, our Mustang at work does, and there are many different types of forks available once you start looking at what is available for payloaders. I know that on this machine, you will not want to have that clamp apparatus way out on the tips of the forks. These machines have great lifting capacity, but really start to fail when you ask them to roll back heavy loads out on the forks. We used a machine like this one on a job recently, and you it is no exception.

WDH · January 01, 2016, 08:20:01 PM

There was an incident today. A weather induced incident. This thing weighs a bazillion tons. With all the rain the last two weeks, there was the perfect storm.

It is hard to bottom-out one better than this. Halfway to China. I told Jake that she was so buried, that there were Chinese from the other side of the world stealing parts from the under-carriage :D.

Jake managed to get it unstuck after much ado. You would not believe how he did it, but I will let him expound on that.

It has been unbelievably wet down here. Hot and wet.

Dave Shepard · January 01, 2016, 08:21:26 PM

I've heard pushing with the boom can bend a section.

Magicman · January 01, 2016, 10:12:47 PM

Glad that you did not have to call Raider Bill to bring a dozer to get it out.

:D

Ocklawahaboy · January 01, 2016, 10:17:42 PM

I would have just planted some kudzu or air potato vine around it and waited for it to disappear. Out of sight/out of mind.

Kbeitz · January 02, 2016, 03:37:08 AM

Let me tell you I know all about getting one stuck and weighing a bazillion tons.
Just not anything will pull one out. Next time I will stay on the pavement.

Satamax · January 02, 2016, 03:50:25 AM

Or buy proper tyres! :D

Nomad · January 02, 2016, 06:15:43 AM

Yup, it was stuck all right. Glad you got it out, Jake!

customsawyer · January 02, 2016, 08:35:40 AM

Well the way we got it out was to pull really hard. :D

Magicman · January 02, 2016, 08:42:32 AM

Obviously the slabs under the front tires did not work. :D

scsmith42 · January 02, 2016, 09:54:19 AM

Danny, I hope that you weren't driving it when it got stuck...

WDH · January 02, 2016, 04:43:11 PM

Oh no. I was a casual observer ;D.

POSTON WIDEHEAD · January 02, 2016, 05:21:51 PM

Up here they just set them on fire, collect the insurance and start over. :D

landscraper · January 02, 2016, 05:24:41 PM

Quote from: Satamax on January 02, 2016, 03:50:25 AM
Or buy proper tyres! :D

I bet his tires weren't this bad.

The framers working on one of my jobsites (but not working for me) have a used Terex lift they bought from Sunbelt so they could set lumber up on the 3rd floor etc.

I snapped this photo when I walked by the other day and noticed it. Now I go to the complete opposite end of the job when they are using it. I have never....ever...seen one this bad in use. Through the tread, through the cord, into the inner casing. The right rear tire is marginally better.

YellowHammer · January 02, 2016, 06:35:52 PM

Yep, that was a definitely a stuck piece of equipment. Might avoid that particular spot in the future. I bet the Deere Skidsteer had something to do with getting it out?

customsawyer · January 02, 2016, 07:42:52 PM

Well first we hook the JD tractor to the front, and then the back. 85 hp tractor would not even shake it, all it would do was spin in the soft mud. So I went and got my Ford pickup with the 16500 pound Warn and hooked that up. Run the cable through a snatch block, spun the truck in reverse to help get a better hold and then anchored the truck to the tractor. Took a little bit to get the proper balance of the boom, as if it was in to far the back just kept sinking and if it was out to far then the front would sink. Once we got that balance figured out she started to pop up out of the mud and come right to us. This is the same trick I used to use to get Dozers and frontend loaders out when doing land clearing.

Kbeitz · January 02, 2016, 07:47:54 PM

Yep... The 16500 will do it...

ScottAR · January 02, 2016, 11:26:07 PM

I would wager that the green lift has foam filled tires... I understand it is very difficult to remove the wheel rim from those so most just get new rims. Thus they just run the tires to destruction. I've seen them worn all the way through to the foam.

Satamax · January 03, 2016, 02:52:09 AM

Landscraper and ScottAR, i've never seen anything that bad over here. That's mad. When i was talking about proper tyres, i mean, some with air in them. So you can deflate a bit to get unstuck a smidge better. And tyres which have more of an agricultural thread, than the ones on that JLD :D Thoses honeycomb tyres haven't reached France yet.

On my machine, i have 18.4-30 tyres water filled! That's in order to stop the tipping.

About foam filled tyres, i've heard that they just cut them, to remove from the rims.

redbeard · January 03, 2016, 03:51:52 AM

Glad you were able too get your rig unstuck. Its Good that you know where to find some cheap crane mats for driving over soft ground in the future.

ScottAR · January 04, 2016, 11:08:19 PM

Air tires are great till they go flat. :

Seriously, Solid tires are great on a industrial site or scrapyard type environment as they can drive over nearly anything with minimal damage. They don't do that well in mud as clearly shown in the pics.