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First Time I've Seen the Ring of Fire

Started by POSTON WIDEHEAD, November 28, 2015, 02:02:20 PM

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POSTON WIDEHEAD

These logs came in this morning. I just sat a spell and looked at them.


  

  

 
The older I get I wish my body could Re-Gen.

Kbeitz

Collector and builder of many things.
Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

terrifictimbersllc

Those are going to make some very purdy boards.  I'm relieved it's not a debilitating caprine dermal condition.
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Bruno of NH

Nice wish we had logs like that up north .
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caveman

Those are some nice logs.  Hopefully one of our knowledgeable foresters will explain to us what causes that. 
Caveman

Left Coast Chris

Pretty interesting.   Hope you will post pics of the lumber.   

At first glance I was thinking you went to see a remake of a Johnny Cash concert.......   :)
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WellandportRob

Cut into them already the suspense is killing me.
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Cedarman

Scares me when I see those white rings in the logs.  Too many times that ring can be completely rotten and ruin the whole log.  Sometimes you do get the purdy wood.   I am still waiting on a good explanation on why sometimes sapwood will not turn into heartwood too.
I am in the pink when sawing cedar.

mesquite buckeye

We get a lot of streaky ones in our crappy field cedars  ;D ;D ;D in Missouri. These came from a double that yielded about 3-4 eight foot logs from each half to 5-6" at the top. I'm thinking knobby mantles with a place to hang Christmas stockings. Worth millions... :-\   We shall see if they sell at all.

  

 

I'll keep my fingers crossed, but haven't seen any serious rot as of now. This one was never pruned and was selected for harvest to test market the knobby mantles. The branches mostly came off one side.
Manage 80 acre tree farm in central Missouri and Mesquite timber and about a gozillion saguaros in Arizona.

mesquite buckeye

The vertical face in the previous post is 9 1/2". Them's some fat rings. Cedars love my bad ground. ;D 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :snowball:
Manage 80 acre tree farm in central Missouri and Mesquite timber and about a gozillion saguaros in Arizona.

Magicman

Those logs will make boards like this:


 
And they can be used like this:


 
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Tree Dan

Send it all out to me and I will take care of that bad wood for you  ;D
Geeter on the mizer and lets see what going on  on the inside 8)
Nice
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4x4American

Boy, back in my day..

Nomad

     Never seen that before.  But if they're good solid wood it'll make some really killer boards! 8)
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POSTON WIDEHEAD

I'll post pics of the lumber as soon as I get my Solenoid.  :D
The older I get I wish my body could Re-Gen.

Magicman

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It's Weird being the Same Age as Old People

Never allow your "need" to make money to exceed your "desire" to provide quality service.....The Magicman

dean herring

Failure is not an option  3D Lumber

POSTON WIDEHEAD

The older I get I wish my body could Re-Gen.

barbender

I was afraid to read this, I thought it might be a case of goat hemorrhoids :-X ;D
Too many irons in the fire

YellowHammer

Very nice, but I have to wonder what would cause that?  I see that occasionally, but not to that extent.  I'm thinking $300 mantles.   8)
YellowHammerisms:

Take steps to save steps.

If it won't roll, its not a log; it's still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

Texas Ranger

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btulloh

Quote from: Magicman on November 28, 2015, 05:33:29 PM
Those logs will make boards like this:

And they can be used like this:

MM - what kind of finish did you use on that ceiling?
HM126

Magicman

No finish at all; planed, T&G, and nailed it up.  That is the ceilings, walls, & flooring in the Cabin mud room.  LINK
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purple otter

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POSTON WIDEHEAD

Quote from: purple otter on November 29, 2015, 03:57:48 PM
Looks like bacon !

He can make it taste like Bacon if he'd hang a piece of it up in his barrel.  :D :D :D :D
The older I get I wish my body could Re-Gen.

LeeB

Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on November 29, 2015, 07:05:53 PM
Quote from: purple otter on November 29, 2015, 03:57:48 PM
Looks like bacon !

He can make it taste like Bacon if he'd hang a piece of it up in his barrel.  :D :D :D :D

The crispy kind?  :D :D :D
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customdave

I thought this would be sawen up by now, mill fixed... just kinda waitin for the pics, not trying rush ya or anything, guess I can wait another hour ;)...

                                 Dave
Love the smell of sawdust

Dodgy Loner

Quote from: Cedarman on November 28, 2015, 05:10:14 PM
I am still waiting on a good explanation on why sometimes sapwood will not turn into heartwood too.

From this article

QuoteThe reddish-violet heartwood of Juniperus virginiana L. contains irregularly distributed and longitudinally oriented streaks of light-coloured wood, described as "included sapwood". A histological study revealed that a blockage of the rays, which is caused by wounds often associated with tiny shakes, branch stubs and included bark, may lead to this anomaly. A study of fresh wood immediately after felling of the trees showed that "included sapwood" lacks physiological activity similar to the adjacent normal heartwood. Cellular UV-spectroscopic analysis revealed a secondary metabolism particularly of phenolic compounds in the pit membranes of tracheids during "included sapwood" formation, whereas the reddish-violet flavonoid compounds do not develop in this anomalous wood. Chemical analyses of petrol ether, diethyl ether, acetone and ethanol/water extracts of sapwood, "included sapwood" and heartwood showed that the accessory compounds cedrol, α-cedrene, widdrol, thujopsene and cuparene increased in "included sapwood" compared to sapwood. As opposed to the reddish-violet heartwood compounds, these sesquiterpenes turned out to be highly toxic against a brown-rot fungus in a bioassay. These findings justify defining "included sapwood" as a heartwood anomaly, since the important wood characteristics of this tissue obey the definition of heartwood rather than sapwood. This anomaly should no longer be a reason to exclude this type of wood from commercial utilisation.

Gotta pay for the whole article. I'm not that curious :D
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POSTON WIDEHEAD

Quote from: customdave on December 02, 2015, 11:07:15 PM
I thought this would be sawen up by now, mill fixed... just kinda waitin for the pics, not trying rush ya or anything, guess I can wait another hour ;)...

                                 Dave

I had other orders ahead of it. My plan is to saw it in the morning.  ::)
The older I get I wish my body could Re-Gen.

OffGrid973

Best part of a roller coaster is the climb...being told the ride is now closed until tomorrow is THE WORST!!!
Your Fellow Woodworker,
- Off Grid

POSTON WIDEHEAD

Quote from: cwimer973 on December 03, 2015, 07:53:47 PM
Best part of a roller coaster is the climb...being told the ride is now closed until tomorrow is THE WORST!!!

You are exactly right....in fact, I may let the coaster go just a little higher.  :D
The older I get I wish my body could Re-Gen.

caveman

Dodgy Loner, thank you for providing an explanation for the ring in the heartwood. 
Caveman

POSTON WIDEHEAD

I was impressed with the guts of these logs.  :) Looks like red lines were actually painted down the sides. I still have not seen anything like these. These belonged to a customer but I ended up trading him 2 for 1 on the lumber. All he was looking for was Cedar to make toys out of. I sawed these slabs 2 inches thick for a table top.


  

  

  

  

 
The older I get I wish my body could Re-Gen.

Nomad

Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on December 04, 2015, 06:57:17 PM
I was impressed with the guts of these logs.  :) Looks like red lines were actually painted down the sides. I still have not seen anything like these. These belonged to a customer but I ended up trading him 2 for 1 on the lumber. All he was looking for was Cedar to make toys out of. I sawed these slabs 2 inches thick for a table top.


  

  

  

  

 

     I think you made a good trade!
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Magicman

Knothole Sawmill, LLC     '98 Wood-Mizer LT40SuperHydraulic   WM Million BF Club Member   WM Pro Sawyer Network

It's Weird being the Same Age as Old People

Never allow your "need" to make money to exceed your "desire" to provide quality service.....The Magicman

POSTON WIDEHEAD

The older I get I wish my body could Re-Gen.

Magicman

Actually, I kept the one that I sawed too.   :)
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It's Weird being the Same Age as Old People

Never allow your "need" to make money to exceed your "desire" to provide quality service.....The Magicman

YellowHammer

Purty cool looking.  Like racing stripes. 
YellowHammerisms:

Take steps to save steps.

If it won't roll, its not a log; it's still a tree.  Sawmills cut logs, not trees.

Kiln drying wood: When the cookies are burned, they're burned, and you can't fix them.

Sawing is fun for the first couple million boards.

Be smarter than the sawdust

customdave

It amazes me that a old man would drool over a stinken old log , but  I can't help it , man thats nice stuff...


                                     Dave
Love the smell of sawdust

customsawyer

If you need help disposing of that ugly stuff let me know. I'm here to help.  ;D
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Sixacresand

I think I clicked "like" when I saw the photos on facebook.   :)
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wolf nemeth

Thanks, Dodgy, for the  explanation.  If I read this correctly, these sapwood streaks are even MORE resistant to  brown fungus than the purple heartwood.  Go figure...
If you  don't know where you're going, you'll probably end up somewhere else!

POSTON WIDEHEAD

Quote from: customsawyer on December 05, 2015, 02:41:19 AM
If you need help disposing of that ugly stuff let me know. I'm here to help.  ;D

Its always good to have caring friends.  ;D
The older I get I wish my body could Re-Gen.

POSTON WIDEHEAD

A lot of people have seen these boards at the mill, some wanting to know what I would take for them.
But sometimes, I know I do, get excited and wanna put a miter saw or planer on them.
I think I'll just sand them real good, let them air dry for a  few months and put them in the shop to store.

I may do a little exploring on Ebay and other sites. Who knows, with Cedar facing like this, I may be crazy NOT to sell it at the right price.  :o
The older I get I wish my body could Re-Gen.

LeeB

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