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Re: Log size question
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2015, 06:41:40 pm »
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Re: Log size question
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2015, 07:49:16 pm »
I've done a few of these,  what dimension are you shooting for in the wall thickness and rise?  And whatever size you decide on, there are many ways to go about it.  The logs I had were big enough to yield two D-logs most of the time, so I ended up with some very usable outside lumber as well.  Whatever you size you decide on, if possible,  you may want to make the opposite side of the bark heavy leaving a dog board, but this will ensure a parallel face to the bark when you make the sizing cut, keeping the bark side on the bed rails.  I found out to speed up the process to take heavy wedge cuts off moving these off to the side while making the rise dimension, then splitting heavy, moving this one off, then paralleling to the bark to the desired size, then the other, then the wedges, which yielded a few 2x4's and 2x6"s . After a few logs you will figure out how you want to approach it for what you want to yield. It's kinda hard to describe in a short post.  Hope this helps, pm if you'd like, I will add, its not that bad, just a feel thing you will get after a few under the belt.
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Re: Log size question
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2015, 09:11:54 pm »
If I am planning on 6x8 logs is it best to use trees that are just big enough to get one log out of. This would mean that  they would all have the heart of the tree in every log. Is this a bad thing?
How close to the bark can you go and still have good wood? I have a lot of questions and I thank everyone for their i put.
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Re: Log size question
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2015, 09:29:14 pm »
Here is a small cabin that I sawed the logs for .... not D logs, but you can see from the end grain that the customer got all the "logs" he could get out of each log.   

  

  It turned out pretty nice.  He did a good job.
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Re: Log size question
« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2015, 09:36:36 pm »
For some reason I didn't get the pics , just the post
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Re: Log size question
« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2015, 09:40:07 pm »
Pic just come thru, that , looks really good banjo. How old is it, and did you cut the dovetails they look really good too
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Re: Log size question
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2015, 09:43:17 pm »
All I did was saw the logs... :)  The customer cut the joints and put it up back behind his house, as a small guest house.   Its probably about two years old.  He is a really nice guy.  Banjo
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Re: Log size question
« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2015, 10:19:34 pm »
Drrobertson. It is a customer that wants these. The ones he wants out of popple/aspen will be 6 inchers.
He wants some 8 inchers out of spruce.
I am leaning towards 8 in square or 8X10 foursided for my own use.

It is good info, how you get  logs out of one log, but for our use, we should be able to get enough at the right size for one, and save the bigger logs for timbers ro X10's, 12's etc.
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Re: Log size question
« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2015, 07:05:13 am »
You may as well figure on using 12" dia logs, and pic the straightest ones you can get.  You will end up with some outside lumber.  Hope all goes well for you, it is fun.
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Re: Log size question
« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2015, 01:04:23 pm »
Getting 12,13 in tops from the guys I haul for should be no problem.
We are pretty lucky or spoiled with the spruce, as most if it is pretty straight. I have not hauled, or even been around the popple being logged, but I'm sure it won't be as nice to deal with as the spruce.
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Re: Log size question
« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2015, 01:51:20 pm »
for 8" building stock, you can get by with smaller it just takes some looking over before each one is started. The length is the other issue, even a slight sweep on smaller saw logs over 12' can eat your lunch with wane at times.  It still is fun, just some head scratching with each saw log, at least for me.  I sawed out one for a fellow for beams like banjo picker showed, 16' 6x10's mostly all heart centered, they turned out good off the mill, but have heard since that all the early rains and humidity he had caused issues with molding, on top of some bowing and twisting, which can happen with SYP,  but from the pictures I saw, his dove tails looked as tight as banjo's,, so I guess this is why the early builders used chinking when building this style of log cabins.
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Re: Log size question
« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2015, 03:11:04 pm »
Most of the spruce here is pretty forgiving it seems like.
The builders here do not use any chinking, except for looks, they do lay a piece of fiberglass insulation about four inches wide and a 1/2 in thick or so on top and let the weight of the next log mash it down, it is not visable once the next log is set on.

I cut some 6X6's and a couple of 8X8's plus several 4X6's and 12' just playing and learning to use the mill last summer, and even though they were just sit on some dunnage, they stayed straight. There was very little cupping on 1 X8 and 10's Even though, I never properly stacked and stickered it.
Every now and then I would find a log with some tension, from now on they will be used for firewood. lol
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Re: Log size question
« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2015, 03:52:25 pm »
Close to the same here, an insulating foam type insulator/vapor barrier.  Mainly used between concrete stem walls and treated sill plates. It works, so it looks like you are in for it, no question there are dwellings with a lot less prep work that has stood the test of time.. one fact for sure, log cabins need maintenance, but what dwelling does not,,
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Re: Log size question
« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2015, 06:54:10 pm »
Personally I like the looks of square with chinking better than anything other than natural logs. If and when I build my own, I think this is what I am going with, unless the better half changes my mind. I love the natural full scribed look, but I don't see myself doing that at this stage in life.
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Re: Log size question
« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2015, 07:40:26 am »
I cut a 6"x 8" yesterday it looked pretty good for the first one. I'm  going to cut a 6"x12" next , I think its going to look better.
We have lived in a Satterwhite log house for 20 years and we love it . We have porches all the way around so the logs never get wet unless there is a lot of wind. But it need resealing about every 5-7 years
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Re: Log size question
« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2015, 03:51:29 pm »
I was going to add to this discussion but was also going to add a picture. I have to admit, I have been able to figure out how to post pictures in the past but at this point, it really isn't worth the effort. This is the most difficult forum to post on.
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Re: Log size question
« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2015, 05:49:01 pm »
I was going to add to this discussion but was also going to add a picture. I have to admit, I have been able to figure out how to post pictures in the past but at this point, it really isn't worth the effort. This is the most difficult forum to post on.
I had a very hard time at the beginning also.
When your done typing your message click on the add photos to post in the blue below.
Then when the next page pops up click on the little blue arrow that say select album.
Pick your upload folder.
Then click brouse.
Find your picture file from your computer files and then click on upload file.
After your picture comes in so you can see it move way down the page and click on insert picture in your post.
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Re: Log size question
« Reply #37 on: November 28, 2015, 06:41:22 pm »
Don't even have to move way down the page.. the URL to click just below the pic will highlight it. Then just do a copy and paste... easy as pie. Click on the "preview" button before post, to see that the pic is right the way you want it.


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Re: Log size question
« Reply #38 on: November 28, 2015, 08:58:54 pm »
Have to agree edkemper
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Re: Log size question
« Reply #39 on: November 28, 2015, 09:22:30 pm »
And I would have to disagree. 

The FF by far has the easiest and most organized picture posting procedure of any forum that I post on or have ever posted on.  Anytime that I want to post a previously posted picture, I click on my gallery, go to the folder, and click on the picture.  I can also use the picture search and locate the thread where it was previously posted. 

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