Need help info from you Bell guys

Nemologger · October 01, 2015, 08:30:49 PM

On my ultra t, there is a small canister kinda behind the fan on front of the engine, I think it must be a vent. It is leaking oil where the bottom tube goes in the canister...is there a o-ring in there? Also what is the difference in a ultra t and a ultra t HP?

lopet · October 01, 2015, 08:55:40 PM

Is this a Deutz diesel ? And what fan are you talking about ? Oil cooler eventually ?

Nemologger · October 01, 2015, 08:57:16 PM

yes a Duetz

lopet · October 01, 2015, 09:32:38 PM

I wouldn't consider myself a Bell guy, but I am familiar with Deutz diesel. A F4L 912 is air cooled and only has a belt to run the cooling fan, hydraulic pump is gear driven of the cam shaft unless you have a second one running of the crank. If you have a rad with a fan it most likely is all hydraulic and you're loosing hydraulic oil and not engine oil. Don't know if that info will do you any good, but let's hope a Bell guy chimes in.

treeslayer2003 · October 01, 2015, 09:56:57 PM

Quote from: Nemologger on October 01, 2015, 08:30:49 PM
On my ultra t, there is a small canister kinda behind the fan on front of the engine, I think it must be a vent. It is leaking oil where the bottom tube goes in the canister...is there a o-ring in there? Also what is the difference in a ultra t and a ultra t HP?

not sure what ya mean......pics would help.

you get the falling down pat yet?

Nemologger · October 01, 2015, 10:11:07 PM

Hi Treeslayer,
I have cut a few trees with it...Its not as easy as it looks on youtube..lol
This is an air cooled Duetz

Nemologger · October 01, 2015, 10:15:58 PM

I should have said it is beside the fan not behind.

treeslayer2003 · October 01, 2015, 10:22:15 PM

you'll get the hang of it. i should have told you before, the return tank needs 225 psi min for a good quick bar return.

still not sure what you mean by canister. you know there is an oil cooler under the shroud behind the fan.

Nemologger · October 01, 2015, 10:28:06 PM

this Little canister is about 2.5 inches round, has a tube going out the bottom and one going out the back...is located right on the front top of engine right beside the fan...on pictures of these engines it can be seen.

treeslayer2003 · October 01, 2015, 10:32:34 PM

i'll look at mine tomorrow if the weather ain't to bad.

lopet · October 02, 2015, 07:09:31 PM

Quote from: Nemologger on October 01, 2015, 10:28:06 PM
this Little canister is about 2.5 inches round, has a tube going out the bottom and one going out the back...is located right on the front top of engine right beside the fan...on pictures of these engines it can be seen.

Still don't know what you mean. When you're talking about a fan, do you mean the cooling fan for the engine ?
Are you able to determine if it's motor oil or hydraulic oil ?

Nemologger · October 02, 2015, 09:26:59 PM

yes lopet,
This is a deutz air cooled engine, there is a fan that sucks air into the engine to cool it.

lopet · October 02, 2015, 10:34:14 PM

Sorry I am lost here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1k0M70juHk

At about 6.20 you get to see a picture of the engine

Nemologger · October 02, 2015, 11:12:56 PM

Yes that's the same engine as mine...if you were to run your hand up over the top of the fan you would come to this little canister at about the 2:00 area. I'm pretty sure its a crankcase vent

oldseabee · October 03, 2015, 09:05:21 PM

A picture would help, and trace the hoses to see where they go and come from, that would be a great help also.

Nemologger · October 04, 2015, 09:59:06 AM

I put a pic in my gallery...don't know how to get it here..sorry

beenthere · October 04, 2015, 10:09:49 AM

Nemo
Go to your last post, click on "Modify".
Then under that window, click the line "Click here to add Photo to post" and a new "upload" window opens... but you already have done the "upload" so click on the menu tab that says "My gallery".
Then click on the pic you want in your post. It will enlarge, then SCROLL down a page or two and click the line "Insert image in post". Answer OK, and now all you need to do is click the Preview button to see that your post is the way you want it to look.

lopet · October 04, 2015, 10:17:28 AM

AC perhaps ? Sorry I am not familiar with this part.

Is this picture upright or 90 degrees on its side ?

You may try what beenthere suggested.

treeslayer2003 · October 04, 2015, 10:28:45 AM

no clue, mine don't have that. or AC

snowstorm · October 04, 2015, 10:30:34 AM

the hose with blue cap is ac the round plastic thing vent from the valve cover?

lopet · October 04, 2015, 11:09:04 AM

It has been mentioned before. Try to follow the hoses and find out where they lead to. I am positive it's not part of the engine but having said that,
I 've been wrong before.

Where are all the AC guys ???????????

Nemologger · October 04, 2015, 11:13:48 AM

A tube comes up from the crankcase to the cannister then a line goes out the cannister to the air intake that goes to the turbo

chevytaHOE5674 · October 04, 2015, 11:21:49 AM

It is a crankcase breather. What ford called a CDR (Crankcase Depression Regulator) on its early diesels.

lopet · October 04, 2015, 01:24:43 PM

Now that makes a lot more sense and I think you are right.
Shouldn't be hard to fix as there isn't much pressure on it.
I was just lost because I never dealt with a closed system, but hey, no mess on the ground.