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Re: What are you working on?
« Reply #160 on: July 10, 2016, 04:45:35 pm »
It's all done with smoke and mirrors. :D



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Re: What are you working on?
« Reply #161 on: July 11, 2016, 09:27:27 am »
how are the girts attached? I think that is the name.  The pieces that the outside boards are nailed to.  I have seen them mortised before, but in the earlier pictures I don't see any mortises for them.  Is there another way to attach them later?

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Re: What are you working on?
« Reply #162 on: July 11, 2016, 01:53:29 pm »
Post #133 is the door side, so no girts. Thats why ur not seeing the pockets.

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Re: What are you working on?
« Reply #163 on: July 11, 2016, 01:58:49 pm »
ok I get it now. not the same on both sides. thank you.

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Re: What are you working on?
« Reply #164 on: July 11, 2016, 03:45:17 pm »
No girts on the door side. There are door posts and headers in housings that were added after the fact. They would have been mortised in, had the fenestration been decided earlier.
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Re: What are you working on?
« Reply #165 on: July 12, 2016, 12:39:41 pm »
looks like an awesome spot for a great looking barn 8)

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Re: What are you working on?
« Reply #166 on: August 03, 2016, 07:50:35 pm »
Not really a progres update, just a neat shot out the window of the barn.

 

 
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Re: What are you working on?
« Reply #167 on: August 03, 2016, 10:08:33 pm »
Working on a gate for the front porch to keep the dogs in.  White oak from my property we milled a few years ago. 

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Re: What are you working on?
« Reply #168 on: January 08, 2017, 03:14:23 pm »
I haven't done any timber framing lately, so no new updates really. I had to plane the small door on the 16'x20' barn a little bit, so I took a winter shot of the barn. It's only 12 here now, but wasn't too bad inside out of the wind.

 

 
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Re: What are you working on?
« Reply #169 on: January 08, 2017, 04:06:18 pm »
I'm continuously working on plans for this 36' x 62' Ag barn for a winery in California.

 

 

Hopefully I'll have them done very soon.

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Re: What are you working on?
« Reply #170 on: January 09, 2017, 01:38:08 pm »
I have 2 of these pavilions to cut.

 
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Re: What are you working on?
« Reply #171 on: January 27, 2017, 02:45:20 pm »
Just a small frame. A warm up for my next project.

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Re: What are you working on?
« Reply #172 on: January 27, 2017, 03:30:41 pm »
Looks great!  :)
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Re: What are you working on?
« Reply #173 on: February 20, 2017, 12:03:07 pm »
Friday, I finished up a set of plans for a 16' x 32' grist mill building. The mill works will be separate from the mill building frame.

 

 

This frame will be raised in South Boston, VA at a historical museum site.

I hope to visit the site soon.

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Re: What are you working on?
« Reply #174 on: February 25, 2017, 01:24:02 pm »
Jim,
I've been doing some consulting on the structure of an old mill here. It ran both coarse and fine millstones as well as 3 roller mills from an overshot wheel. The dam washed out in '61 but it has been kept in pretty good condition, we turned and cleaned out the wheel a few days ago by hand, bearings still good enough that one person could do it. There are a couple of gentlemen in the region up here that the family has consulted with on the machinery and those parts of the structure. I would like to visit when you come down if we can work it as well as put the owners and experts together if they are interested. You know how there are some accents you can pick out of a crowd, South Boston is one of those. Keep an eye on the old smaller stucco houses around there as well, a number of them are log cabins under all that mud.

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Re: What are you working on?
« Reply #175 on: February 27, 2017, 10:14:50 am »
Jim,

If I may ask, how are the rafters attached to the tops of the walls on each side?  I am asking because I notice there are no cross ties from rafter to rafter.  What keeps the roof from sagging and pushing out the rafters?

Reason I ask is this is exactly how a horse barn/tack room was built on my property, and the rafters sagged pushed off the top of the walls over 70 years.

Thanks for the information and explanation in advance.

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Re: What are you working on?
« Reply #176 on: February 27, 2017, 02:34:57 pm »
In this case the rafters are secured to the top of the plate with two or three timberlok screws. The tongue and fork joint at the ridge also helps with strength.
This frame is only 16' wide and very low snow load. Metal roofing will allow any snow to slide off very soon, so "load duration" is very short.

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Re: What are you working on?
« Reply #177 on: February 28, 2017, 08:03:05 am »
The plates transfer the horizontal thrust from the rafters to the extended posts and then to the tie beams. This can get tricky.

I was enlightened on another aspect of mill construction the other day. The main components of a mill were carried independent of the mill building by a "Hurst Frame". A good description is here;
http://www.lousweb.com/Stover%20Mill/chapter_4part_1.htm

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Re: What are you working on?
« Reply #178 on: February 28, 2017, 11:07:19 am »
DonP

Thanks for posting the link.

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« Reply #179 on: March 02, 2017, 08:41:44 am »
I happened upon this set of register drawings for a mill in AR, scroll down, click on one and then click for the viewer for the full set;
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Millstone_Assembly_of_Hurst_Frame_-_Boxley_Grist_Mill,_Boxley_vicinity_on_State_Route_43,_Buffalo_National_River,_Ponca,_Newton_County,_AR_HAER_ARK,51-PON,1-_(sheet_18_of_20).png

Another good resource for these old mills is Oliver Evans "The Young Mill-Wrights and Miller's Guide". I downloaded a 515 page pdf but neglected to save the link. This is from 1795 and through multiple reprints describes modern milling using elevators and conveyors driven by the mill rather than shoveling and hoisting from that time on to when the roller mills came into play. Difficult reading, I'm still wading. Engravings are at the end of the book starting around pg 470 followed by a list of subscribers who helped finance it I assume, Washington and Jefferson among the many names.