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Re: New member with steam powered Lane mill saying hello
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2015, 07:18:05 am »
Welcome, 'shaper!  Sounds like a great project, looking forward to following your progress.
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Re: New member with steam powered Lane mill saying hello
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2015, 03:01:12 pm »
 

 

First time posting photos.  This is the steam engine as it was found.  More pictures to follow. 

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Re: New member with steam powered Lane mill saying hello
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2015, 03:03:45 pm »
 

 

Here is a shot of the Lane sawmill that was powered by the steam engine.  It is a Lane #1 in great shape. 

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Re: New member with steam powered Lane mill saying hello
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2015, 03:05:40 pm »
 

 

Pickering ball governor, with sawyers lever, and speed ball ranger.  These were made in Portland, Connecticut and used all over the world.  Portland is just 20 minutes from my location.

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Re: New member with steam powered Lane mill saying hello
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2015, 03:06:59 pm »
 

 

Loading day.  Pulling boiler and steam engine onto trailer with a chain come a long. 

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Re: New member with steam powered Lane mill saying hello
« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2015, 03:07:52 pm »
 

 

Unloading the whole assembly at the farm. 

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Re: New member with steam powered Lane mill saying hello
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Re: New member with steam powered Lane mill saying hello
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Re: New member with steam powered Lane mill saying hello
« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2015, 07:46:11 pm »
Im glad thats not mine , because i cant afford to work on it , but i would love to get to work on it , and bring that beast back to life. i just love to tinker with old iron.
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Re: New member with steam powered Lane mill saying hello
« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2015, 08:04:47 pm »
So cool. Brings back members when  I was a kid that I used to play in my Grandpaw's Cotton Gin. It was powered by a two cly diesel Fairbank. Belts ran all over the place. Sad part was, it ran a saw mill too which killed my grandpaw. Momma was only 13 at the time. The engine still stands in place as it did almost 100 years ago.

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Re: New member with steam powered Lane mill saying hello
« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2015, 08:17:23 pm »
Very cool!  thanks for taking time to post.

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Re: New member with steam powered Lane mill saying hello
« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2015, 08:40:10 pm »
Brian, your engine  is almost a dead ringer for mine except mine was on wheels. I bought mine from Willie Zagray in Colchester Ct. back in the eighties, it was used on a local sawmill. Stan Zagray had a foundry and manufactured  sawmills I think he called them Amsted mills or something like that. Who made your boiler I can't quite make out the name. Be carefull those boilers are now about 100 years old and theirs nothing more vicious than high pressure steam. Frank C.
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Re: New member with steam powered Lane mill saying hello
« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2015, 08:53:25 pm »
Nice story,nice pictures.
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Re: New member with steam powered Lane mill saying hello
« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2015, 11:52:07 pm »
Thats some serous  Hp...
Whats it going to be? A saw dust burner ?
You got some real weight there.
Guessing 50-75 Hp ?
How big is the boiler going to be ?


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Re: New member with steam powered Lane mill saying hello
« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2015, 12:18:40 am »
Following - love steam.
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Re: New member with steam powered Lane mill saying hello
« Reply #35 on: July 23, 2015, 12:44:29 am »
Welcome metalshaper! What is the size of the engine?  Boiler looks big enough for 50+ hp. That will be a lot of torque available when you get it going.   8)
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Re: New member with steam powered Lane mill saying hello
« Reply #36 on: July 23, 2015, 03:10:20 am »
Thanks for the pictures metalshaper.

The mill looks to be in very good condition. I'm trying to figure out the engine. It's a nice heavy center crank but not real familiar looking. The boiler doesn't look real big, and no steam dome either. When you get a chance maybe you can get some measurements and we can guess at the HP.... Bore and stroke, and number, length, and diameter of the boiler tubes. Maybe the size of the firebox too. I'd like to know the diameter and face of the flywheels too. Looks like about a 2" Pickering Ball Ranger, that is what I have on my Leffel, one of the best governors, in its day.

I hope the inside of the boiler is in good condition. You will need to look at all the stay bolts and ultrasound the plates before you put a fire in it. Looks like you are going to need a few other items like injectors and water glass and maybe some re piping. Be sure to use all double strength black iron pipe... No galvanized.

I wish I could be there to help you go over it. Make friends with some steam guys up there and I'm sure you can get all the help you need for an inspection.

 There are some good old engine sites out there too like Harry's old Engine and Smokstak.

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Re: New member with steam powered Lane mill saying hello
« Reply #37 on: July 23, 2015, 05:59:35 am »
I know nothing about steam engines.What is the method for testing old equipment before putting it back in service?
I don't need a lengthy lesson,just wondering how you steamers keep it safe.
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Re: New member with steam powered Lane mill saying hello
« Reply #38 on: July 23, 2015, 06:49:20 am »
Boiler Hydrostatic Testing


There is a speical water pump most are hand pumps that pump water into the boiler.
The boiler and process lines must be completely vented in order to fill them with water.  If your running like 75 psi them you would pump like 150psi water into the boiler.
Or 1 times the design pressure.
the water cant explode.

1. Open the steam drum vent valve and gag the safety valves in accordance with safety valve manufacturer's recommendations. In lieu of gagging, the safety valves may be removed and replaced with test plugs or blind flanges.

2. Open the vents on the interconnecting piping. Close steam outlet valve.

3. Isolate pressure switches, gauge glasses or control components that are not intended to be subjected to a hydrostatic test.

4. Fill the system with treated water in accordance with recommendations from the Clients water treatment consultant. (Refer to section entitled "Water treatment

Considerations". The test water temperature range must be 70°F minimum to 120°F maximum (100°F to 120°F water temperature is preferred). Care should be taken so that all air is vented while the equipment is being filled. Fill the equipment until water overflows the vent, then close the vent.

5. Apply pressure slowly. The recommended rate of pressure increase is less than 50 psi per minute. Proper control must be maintained so that pressure does not

exceed the desired setting of the local steam boiler inspecting agency. Do not subject any pressure part to more than 1 times the design pressure rating of any

component.

6. When the proper test pressure is reached, inspection in accordance with the test objective can begin. Examine the system for any leaks. If no leaks are visible,

hold the system in a pressurized static condition for a period long enough to satisfy the code requirement.

7. Upon completion of the test, release pressure slowly through a small drain valve. Then fully open vents and drains when the pressure drops to 20 psig. Particular


8. If temporary handhole or manway gaskets were used for the test, they should be replaced with regular service gaskets before readying the unit for operation.

Gaskets should never be reused. Replace gage glass if necessary and make sure that the gage cocks are open. Remove all blanks or gags from safety valves and install relief valves, if removed.

9. Additional inspection at this time by the Authorized inspector will determine whether the installation including piping arrangements, valve gauges and controls

and other equipment on the unit meets Code and/or other jurisdictional requirements.

10. Refer to the "Summary of valve positions" for recommended positioning of the various valves during hydrostatic testing.

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Re: New member with steam powered Lane mill saying hello
« Reply #39 on: July 23, 2015, 06:52:09 am »
Don't know much about steam boilers either, but I'm guessing that's what Steamsawyer was talking about with visual and ultrasound inspection?

Visual picks up the obvious corrosion or cracks, and an ultrasound finds the thin spots and hidden cracks.

I remember them doing a survey of an oilfield FPSO (converted supertanker moored offshore) when I was working for a local oil company. Although it looked OK, some of the steel plates had almost corroded though. Well one actually had, and sprung a small leak. Which is what led to the survey... They ended up putting lot of patches on the old tub.  :D
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