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Cooking Pecan
« on: June 28, 2015, 08:47:08 pm »
No, not cooking with pecan, but cooking it.  To spalt.  I let some lay around too long a couple of years ago.  When I sawed it, I found it riddled with black lined ambrosia beetle holes and some light spalting.  I went ahead and air dried it, then kiln dried it.  A customer saw it and wanted a coffee table, so I made one out of it.  Turned out very beautiful in my opinion.  There is a thread on it here:  http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,82809.0.html.

Now, I want some more, and I want to do it on purpose.  I cut some pecan logs back in late winter and let them lay for about three or four months.  Hopefully the ambrosia beetles are having a party.  I piled the logs kinda willy nilly, and covered them as well as I could with wet planer shavings a few days ago.  I am hoping that they will "cook" in this Georgia sweltering heat.  I can already see some fungal fruiting bodies on the ends of some of the pieces.  Plan is to leave them "cook" through the Summer and Fall and open them up late in the year.

So, I need the benefits of y'alls experience spalting wood.  Not just spalt, but I want the ambrosia beetle holes too.  What has worked for you?

 

 

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Re: Cooking Pecan
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2015, 08:56:51 pm »
I have encouraged spalting in short sections for turning blanks.  I do it in a shady spot, rake the leaves away from a spot, put the log section on end and put the leaves and a little dirt on top.  As long as it is wet and warm, spalting happens pretty quickly.  Your method should also work, I would recommend cutting a cookie off an end fairly often to check on progress.  Timing has not been very predictable for me and spalting becomes rot if left too long.  If you do cut off a cookie; cover the end back up afterwards so it does not dry out.
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Re: Cooking Pecan
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2015, 09:23:10 pm »
I am pretty sure that the beetles have had time to get into the wood and do their thing in the four months prior to covering the logs with the wet shavings.  I wanted to give them time to get in there. 
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Re: Cooking Pecan
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2015, 09:34:22 pm »
I don't see much Ambrosia Beetle activity here. As far as spalting, my hackberry spalts beautifully just leaving the logs on the ground for 6-9 months before sawing. Getting the bark off seems to cut down on the longhorn beetle tracks.

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Re: Cooking Pecan
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2015, 08:25:44 pm »
From my minimal experience, the rougher the surroundings, the quicker and better the effects... Dump some hot garbage in there, and water it!!!
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Re: Cooking Pecan
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2015, 09:04:47 pm »
If I want something to happen to something I want,it happens pretty quick and the out come is not good. But if i want something bad to happen to something good and I want it to look good,the out come is still not good.
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Re: Cooking Pecan
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2015, 09:40:52 pm »
the rougher the surroundings, the quicker and better the effects...

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These surroundings are pretty rough.
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Re: Cooking Pecan
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2015, 09:00:15 am »
And I thought this was going to be a discussion about peecan pie. :(
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Re: Cooking Pecan
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2015, 10:42:33 am »
And I thought this was going to be a discussion about peecan pie. :(
..me too  :( :(  So disappointed


But I am interested in the process of spaulting logs

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Re: Cooking Pecan
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2015, 08:27:35 pm »
I knew nothing about spalting a year ago, but learned alot about it in the last 6 months...I just had a pile of logs I had no time to get to...staged in the worst possible manner...on the ground, in a low water table area, with a seasonal high water table, with lots of hot gargage floating about, as mentioned...sawed one of said ambrosia maple logs today, ambrosia of coarse, some quilting, and yup, spalting......39" log, 16 slabs, some freeform pieces with great figure, and some boards...
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Re: Cooking Pecan
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2015, 05:31:56 am »
When spalting wood blanks for turning, they get covered with shavings and then soaked with beer and covered with plastic. Should get some beautiful spalting in a matter of months.
Not sure if the beer brings more to the party but it seems to help.....
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Re: Cooking Pecan
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2015, 07:17:38 am »
Maybe I should cover my pecan with plastic.
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Re: Cooking Pecan
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2015, 07:19:51 pm »
Soaked with beer?
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Maybe beer in its used form would work?
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Re: Cooking Pecan
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2015, 04:45:35 am »
Logs seem to spalt more thoroughly and more quickly if you fell the trees in early summer.
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Re: Cooking Pecan
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2015, 07:07:24 am »
I wonder if a watched log won't spalt, sorta like a watched pot won't boil (old saying)?
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Re: Cooking Pecan
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2015, 08:39:15 am »
I don't see any reason you couldn't saw first and then cover with wet chips and cover with plastic. At least this way you could see the face of the boards for the level of spalting you want. I received 2 large silver maple logs that I may slab and try.
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« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2015, 06:36:07 pm »
I would think raym, that if you did it that way, you'd just end up with moldy, ruined, stained slabs...there's something about opening a log up that changes the dynamics of everything... But I don't know, never tried it...but I'd think someone here has, and will share...
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Re: Cooking Pecan
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2015, 10:12:17 am »
When you guys say "spalted", are you talking specifically about black line spalting? I have worked a fair bit with spalted maple out here in WA, and often run into people who have a different idea of what constitutes "spalted".

I am curious what is considered "spalted" in other species, geographic regions.

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Re: Cooking Pecan
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2015, 12:10:13 pm »
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What are the "different ideas" of spalted in the PNW?

I'd think "black line" would be a good bet for spalted.
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Re: Cooking Pecan
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2015, 12:34:41 pm »
Interesting idea Danny, I thought about doing something similar with maple and covering it with leaves.
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