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Started by Kbeitz, April 17, 2015, 07:04:07 PM

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Kbeitz

Quote from: Ox on May 10, 2017, 11:32:37 AM
Funny - I'm ordering some Kasco 4s today... I'm looking forward to them.

I'm betting you will like them...
Collector and builder of many things.
Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

JRWoodchuck

Just ordered some Kasco 4's from Cutting Edge on Monday myself! Thanks for the report K. Excited to give them a try
Home built bandsaw mill still trying find the owners manual!

Delawhere Jack

Just saw the pics of the 15 year old walnut log you milled a couple days ago. I think you'll be VERY pleasantly surprised when you use the wood and put a finish on it.  ;)

Kbeitz

Quote from: Delawhere Jack on May 10, 2017, 05:28:39 PM
Just saw the pics of the 15 year old walnut log you milled a couple days ago. I think you'll be VERY pleasantly surprised when you use the wood and put a finish on it.  ;)

I have worked a lot with walnut before but I never sawed a log of it before the 15 year old ones. I got another BIG one to saw up when I can get to it.
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Kbeitz

Part of my report on 4° blades. So far I'm liking them a lot.
They are slower than the 7° but on my mill they do a much
better job. Today I had something happen that never happened
before. I was cutting an ash tree and I had all the sap wood
off. After my second cut making 3x8x10 my blade made a fast
hard dive. I got the mill stopped before the blade broke. I slowly
backed out and rolled the log looking for a knot or metal. I
found nothing. So I resharpened the blade and slowly reentered
the log at the same spot and finished the cut. I flipped the plank
over looking for whatever it was that made my blade dive  so
fast and hard. I found nothing. Not even a knot. Has anyone
have had this happen to them before? Can a blade go dull this
fast with no small dips or dives before?
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gww

K
Check your guide bearings and the tightness of your guide.  The only time I had that happen, my guide bearing had disinagrated.
Good luck
gww

PS  I have had log stress do lots of things to my mill also.  Some logs are amazing and change as I cut them.

Kbeitz

Quote from: gww on May 13, 2017, 09:24:48 PM
K
Check your guide bearings and the tightness of your guide.  The only time I had that happen, my guide bearing had disinagrated.
Good luck
gww

PS  I have had log stress do lots of things to my mill also.  Some logs are amazing and change as I cut them.

Checking my guide bearings was the first thing I did after looking to see
if the blade hit something somewhere. It acted just like it hit a back stop
or something. The blade was running so straight and just took a fast nose
dive.
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and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

Ox

I've never personally seen this happen.  But heard about it in a funky log with strange grain patterns.  The blade just can't get out of the path of grain or something like that.  But why did it not happen the second time?  Beats me.  Tiny little weird things happen all the time for me on a weekly basis.  ???
K.I.S.S. - Keep It Simple Stupid
Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without
1989 GMC 3500 4x4 diesel dump and plow truck, 1964 Oliver 1600 Industrial with Parsons loader and backhoe, 1986 Zetor 5211, Cat's Claw sharpener, single tooth setter, homemade Linn Lumber 1900 style mill, old tools

fishfighter

Quote from: Kbeitz on May 14, 2017, 01:46:41 AM
Quote from: gww on May 13, 2017, 09:24:48 PM
K
Check your guide bearings and the tightness of your guide.  The only time I had that happen, my guide bearing had disinagrated.
Good luck
gww

PS  I have had log stress do lots of things to my mill also.  Some logs are amazing and change as I cut them.

Checking my guide bearings was the first thing I did after looking to see
if the blade hit something somewhere. It acted just like it hit a back stop
or something. The blade was running so straight and just took a fast nose
dive.

K, I had a fresh felled oak mill last week. Was sawing one of the last passes and sure as heck, my blade took a dive. As you, I back out and put the chainsaw to it to see what was what. Nothing there. My thinking is that log had a lot of stress. Heck, after that cut, the cant center lifted off the bed a good inch. :o

gww

K
I have had logs cut really funky to a point and then just straiten out for the rest of the log.  I can see how the next cut could have been good.
I cut a whole bunch of sub standard logs and there are many times that I am sure it is the log.  I also have dogging issues if I am not careful cause my dogs can tend to lift one side of a cant up if I tighten them hard and the cant is light.

I have always found annomolies hard to interpet.  It is like electrical problims that are intermitted.  It is hard to fix untill total failure shows what is wrong.
Good luck
gww

Kbeitz

Wow let me tell you a 26 foot 8x8 can be heavy...
I got it in but now I gotta get it up...



 



 




 



 



 



 



 


Collector and builder of many things.
Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

grouch

That's a monster. Did it try to eat any of your digits or limbs along the way? When they get that big, I think they develop a taste for human flesh.

Find something to do that interests you.

Kbeitz

Quote from: grouch on May 14, 2017, 11:52:51 PM
That's a monster. Did it try to eat any of your digits or limbs along the way? When they get that big, I think they develop a taste for human flesh.

No hurts so far....
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Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

Ox

It's amazing what we put ourselves through just to get things accomplished.
K.I.S.S. - Keep It Simple Stupid
Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without
1989 GMC 3500 4x4 diesel dump and plow truck, 1964 Oliver 1600 Industrial with Parsons loader and backhoe, 1986 Zetor 5211, Cat's Claw sharpener, single tooth setter, homemade Linn Lumber 1900 style mill, old tools

gww

K
Those are liter if you let them dry for about a 100 years before placing :).
Cheers
gww

FloridaMike

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K, I had a fresh felled oak mill last week. Was sawing one of the last passes and sure as heck, my blade took a dive. As you, I back out and put the chainsaw to it to see what was what. Nothing there. My thinking is that log had a lot of stress. Heck, after that cut, the cant center lifted off the bed a good inch.
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Back in my Frick circle saw days, I had several stress heavy logs that go the opposite way on a circle mill (blade/cant/carriage stay true and the cut board goes crazy).  Had to duck the sawed end of a 1 x 8 come off the cant/blade/spliter circling around trying to slap me at the head controls.   The amount of the force stored in a bad stressed log is truly amazing!
Mike

Ox

Yep, I've seen a board come up off the cant looked like a banana peel
K.I.S.S. - Keep It Simple Stupid
Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without
1989 GMC 3500 4x4 diesel dump and plow truck, 1964 Oliver 1600 Industrial with Parsons loader and backhoe, 1986 Zetor 5211, Cat's Claw sharpener, single tooth setter, homemade Linn Lumber 1900 style mill, old tools

Kbeitz

The beam is up and I'm closing the wall...



 



 
Collector and builder of many things.
Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

grouch

And you're just going to keep it secret how you got that monster up there? No photos of the process, just the result?

Find something to do that interests you.

Kbeitz

I got 4 of them... If you turn the handle hard enough you can drive a 4x4 right through a timbor.



 

Collector and builder of many things.
Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

grouch

Ah! That's one of the trailer jacks you showed earlier.
Find something to do that interests you.

Peter Drouin

That worked well, nice job.
A&P saw Mill LLC.
45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

Kbeitz

Well one job is finished... I hate driving nails in ash...



 
Collector and builder of many things.
Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

Kbeitz

Yesterday I was cutting lumber and hit metal hard.
It took the teeth almost off the blade.
I was thinking well this blade is toast.
I had nothing to loose so I put it on my
homemade sharping machine. I had to
set the tilt at almost 45° to get a point
back on the blade. I said this is never
going to work. I sawed all day cutting
more Ash with this blade and it worked fine ...
Go figure...



 
Collector and builder of many things.
Love machine shop work
and Wood work shop work
And now a saw mill work

Peter Drouin

With some set and sharpen the blade will cut.
Why is ash so bad?
A&P saw Mill LLC.
45' of Wood Mizer, cutting since 1987.
License NH softwood grader.

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