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Started by xlogger, March 09, 2015, 06:28:13 AM

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xlogger

After this winter and the snow we got it time to rock my drive and around the mill again. I've got a dump trailer that will do about 3-4 tons. Someone told me about crush concrete at a lower price than crush and run at the rock quarry. Anyone here got pro and cons on using that?
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goose63

It should work and if you can get some dust from the rock crusher to mix in that will make a good binder
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Crushed concrete will break down faster than crusher run gravel
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drobertson

never heard of it for use like that but have seen it in fills,  I need some too, we are looking at getting a load of chat sometime real soon,  crushed limestone, thinking 1" with the fines,
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sandhills

We have 2 concrete crushers here locally and they both seem to stay busy, a lot of people use it for just that.  My biggest concern is all the metal from rebar and such that gets through the crusher and comes with it, I hate fixing tires.

Bruno of NH

I have the crushed concrete as my mill site . Packs the best they pull the rebar out it's not good for the crusher !
People that stop at the mill coment on the material and how packed solid it is . I pay $280 a load delivered .
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LAZERDAN

Crushed concrete is great, it packs well and hold up well.  The only problem, if it had metel in the concrete, some times it gets past the magnet.  You need to spend time pickin out stuff after its graded.  Better yet ground asphalt, it will re emuslify when it gets summer sun and NO DUST ever,  Hard to get a hold of it. If you don't know the right people.   Lazerdan 

martyinmi

Quote from: sandhills on March 09, 2015, 09:27:09 AM
My biggest concern is all the metal from rebar and such that gets through the crusher and comes with it, I hate fixing tires.
Same thing here. We change a couple dozen tires/year that we believe are from metal in the concrete.
Buying the crushed concrete is soo hard for my boss(the owner) to do. >:(
We have hauled hundreds, if not thousands of yards of old concrete back to the cement plant over the years, and they don't give you anything for it.
When we need some crush to do a drive or other projects, it seems we end up buying back what we just gave away! ::)
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bhall

xlogger, in the past 8 years I have tried several different top coats, here is my opinion on them: crushed concrete with fines, packs well and holds up OK but some metal does get past the magnets; crushed asphalt, not too bad, packs real nice seems to be more firm, but this stuff is getting harder to get; crushed shale form the quarry, packs real nice but gets soft when whet; crushed limestone, by far the most expensive but mixed with fines it holds up the best. Where I have used all these is on my farm roads that can get some good tractor use and my drive way and now the area where I will be using the sawmill. Like I said, just my observations & opinion.
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scleigh

Cost a little more than other options mentioned, but # 57 washed stone works really well. If hauling your own, you can usually get it for $15 to $16 a ton.

hacknchop

We have a good product here locally called traprock packs really well and priced out pretty close to what you pay for cruhed gravel, we also can get crushed slag from the steel mill in Sault Ste Marie.We still run into tire damage every now and then from shards not often but it beats mud.
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scsmith42

Another good option locally is Chapel Hill Gravel.  A tri-axle is around $260 delivered to my farm.
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BEEMERS

As a rule of thumb..here anyway,we use crushed concrete where theirs mud or clay or high water table, and crushed road gravel where there is sand.After either is down for a base you can cap it off with something better like crushed limestone.Sometimes a really good crushed concrete about 1 inch and no dirt in it can be comparable to crushed limestone but its a rare occasion.
Or let price help to make your judgement..local materials are a lot cheaper than pulling something in from across the state.
I have locally quarried products here and I also have crushed limestone..it comes from over a hundred miles away and I get 40 bucks a yard for it but its just good enough that people still demand it.

Corley5

Ten yards of Afton Stone, crushed limestone ;), delivered costs me 175.00.  The last stuff I got had bigger stone and a lot of binder.  It's held up really well on my hill.  Chuck told me what the spec was but I don't remember.
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BEEMERS

Corley5..your making my point exactly. Your closer to limestone so you are getting it much cheaper.Now bring it a hundred miles South and stick the mileage and fuel charge on its much more expensive..its no longer a local product...but if you want it..Ive got it at the point in MI that's about the farthest from Limestone as you can get.
I pay around just shy of $1000 per gravel train load..I getting 33-35 yards Id say at a time. If I got it in a ten yard load..Id probably get hit for close to half of that.
I get the Stonecrete with the patent from Rogers city,I know that's probably a little more to start with.
I also know there are a lot of variables in the quality of limestone..its different from quarry to quarry.So I stick with the best stuff as that's what my clients have come to know.
Im just saying for the original poster to ask whats locally quarried first.Its always cheaper.If the local stuff isn't good enough then you can move on up the scale of products.
A lot of times also I sell the customer on road gravel for half the price or less and cap it off either now or a year or so down the road with just a couple inches of the really good expensive stuff. That saves a lot and often they are very happy with the cheaper  product and never do cap it off with the limestone.
And once or twice Ive drove by that year or too later and they've spent thousands,like ten thousand dollars and had it paved...and that's after the limestone was put on it!! Sorry bout the rant..

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X log

Go to that town in AR and tell them you need rock for a drive-- they will fix you right up. The name of the town is Little Rock. :(

I put 2 trucks of crush concrete on a drive last spring, by fall it got so hard I couldn't blade it off very good with 350 John Deer.

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xlogger

takes a while to go to AR to pickup a few tons from my place :D
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Any opinions on creek gravel?
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beenthere

Not many other than it's like driving on marbles. Some can't get anything else.
We are fortunate to be able to get crushed limestone. It, along with the fines, makes for a great hard packed drive.
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Holmes

  I have river bank gravel on my property. All the stones are round, they will bind up eventually but not on mud.
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sawguy21

I sure cussed the last time I had crushed on a driveway. It was great for the summer, no mud or weeds and it looked very nice. The following spring was another story, the drive was a mess from plowing and I was picking stones with the lawn mower.
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