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Author Topic: how to layout this 24" Red Oak  (Read 1699 times)

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Offline brownloggin

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how to layout this 24" Red Oak
« on: February 01, 2015, 06:07:02 pm »
i'm looking to do some timber framing (rookie).  i have this nice red oak that i'd like to use. its 24" in diameter at base and 18" about 20' up the log.  can i get two 6x8 beams out of this or do i need to take the full heart and go with one?  what should i expect out of this log.... its free of knots.  after 20' it does "Y" off, should i stay away from cutting by this?  i'm anxious to see what i can get out of it! thanks



  

 

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Re: how to layout this 24" Red Oak
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2015, 08:02:03 pm »
What ever you do, Id go ahead and put sealer on the end / ends.
I'm thinking......

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Re: how to layout this 24" Red Oak
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2015, 08:30:52 pm »
I'd say go for it(2 beams)!  Life is short, and you just don't get a chance to mill logs like that everyday.  Nice and straight, clear, tight ring, etc.

 
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Re: how to layout this 24" Red Oak
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2015, 09:48:36 pm »
I'd watch out for that first slight bend to the right. I'd buck it right there and make a second log above that.
All logs have knots. It will be interesting to see what they are like when you mill it. ;D
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Re: how to layout this 24" Red Oak
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2015, 09:50:42 pm »
I'm intrested to hear what you guys have to say about this one :)
Is that off centre pith gonna give him a little trouble?
Would he want to take the beams out of the "tension wood" above the pith and over size it so he can trim the bow out later?
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Re: how to layout this 24" Red Oak
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2015, 10:23:24 pm »
I would take a timber from the centre, heart centred, and take lumber from around it.

Oh ya...2nd what Poston said, seal the ends!
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Re: how to layout this 24" Red Oak
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2015, 05:10:39 pm »
"IF" i took two beams out of it, split the heart.... how much could i expect a 20'er to move?

-what does sealing it do?

-if you look down the log at the "Y", can i cut through this to the left?  it is the main part of the tree.

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Re: how to layout this 24" Red Oak
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2015, 06:08:03 pm »
Do you care if the beams you saw out are straight? 
Would assume you do, so unless you just want to experiment with the two beams and sawing through the crotch wood (Y to the left), I'd also say stick with one beam, pith center.
Much more likely to have a good outcome. But then again, you may get lucky and fool mother nature.
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Re: how to layout this 24" Red Oak
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2015, 10:00:30 pm »
sometimes i hate the truth.  but its better to be safe than sorry.. i have a lot of work in draggin this monster log out of the woods.  my duramax proved itself worthy.  i'll just have to think of some more ways to use the wood????  ;D

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Re: how to layout this 24" Red Oak
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2015, 11:34:05 pm »
Do you have to have 6x8s? If you split the pith, they will certainly bow on you. you can get 1 6x8 heart centered That will most likely be fine. but you can also get 2 FOH 4x12s  with some wood to spare, for example. Take a black sharpie and draw a 4" box around the pith. as long as you don't cut through the box, you have a decent chance to get nice, straight timbers. As a rule, I like to cut a little oversize to account for some movement, and then resaw them to final dimensions.
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