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Started by Tree Dan, January 15, 2015, 04:37:06 PM

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Tree Dan

Hey guys, spoke to my dealer today about the Stilh 661 and the 880
I can get the ms880  for a extra 700 bananas  8)
I have some muscle still at 59 yrs.
I would also like to do some slabbing as well as noodeling  with this saw
just a tad over 2gs for the 880...pull the trigger or what
Wood Mizer LT40HD, Kubota KX71, New Holland LS150, Case TR270
6400 John Deere/with loader,General 20" planer, Stihl 880, Stihl 361, Dolmar 460, Husqvarna 50  and a few shovels,
60" and 30" Log Rite cant hooks, 2 home built Tree Spades, Homemade log splitter

so il logger

thats a tough one imo i will wait a couple years before spending the money on the 661. let others find out all the problems with the new set up. The 880 is a very tough saw but i heard that they dont have the chain speed like a 660. If your not strictly stihl you might try a husky 395xp. I have had good luck with them and im pretty hard on saws. the old 660 is bulletproof compared to husky but much less power

Tree Dan

Quote from: so il logger on January 15, 2015, 05:04:08 PM
thats a tough one imo i will wait a couple years before spending the money on the 661. let others find out all the problems with the new set up. The 880 is a very tough saw but i heard that they dont have the chain speed like a 660. If your not strictly stihl you might try a husky 395xp. I have had good luck with them and im pretty hard on saws. the old 660 is bulletproof compared to husky but much less power

On this edge of the town they don't offer the 395 anymore plus ITS out dated...old
I need a 60" bar and not sure what small bar to get maybe just the 36" on the Stihl 880 Wow
Wood Mizer LT40HD, Kubota KX71, New Holland LS150, Case TR270
6400 John Deere/with loader,General 20" planer, Stihl 880, Stihl 361, Dolmar 460, Husqvarna 50  and a few shovels,
60" and 30" Log Rite cant hooks, 2 home built Tree Spades, Homemade log splitter

so il logger

well the 880 should turn that 36inch lol. Id pay the extra money just to keep away from 661 a couple years. I havent seen the 661 in person. None of the dealers round here has any yet. I recently bought new 660 and asked dealer then if he had sold any 661 yet. he replied no and he didnt really want to because of the electronics

Tree Dan

Quote from: so il logger on January 15, 2015, 05:27:03 PM
well the 880 should turn that 36inch lol. Id pay the extra money just to keep away from 661 a couple years. I havent seen the 661 in person. None of the dealers round here has any yet. I recently bought new 660 and asked dealer then if he had sold any 661 yet. he replied no and he didnt really want to because of the electronics

The guys up here loging are using the 661 and they love them, they also use the 880.
Only bad new I herd on the 661, It was a brand new saw, got caught up and the whole darn tree fell on the new saw. wow that hurts... I hear it was just smashed to bits...brand ne saw.
Im leaning hard on a 880. they knocked another 100 off 8)
Wood Mizer LT40HD, Kubota KX71, New Holland LS150, Case TR270
6400 John Deere/with loader,General 20" planer, Stihl 880, Stihl 361, Dolmar 460, Husqvarna 50  and a few shovels,
60" and 30" Log Rite cant hooks, 2 home built Tree Spades, Homemade log splitter

so il logger

I hope the 661 is as dependable as 660. And hopefully more powerful. I havent found one yet that can take a tree getting on it. I got lucky awhile back because the ground was soft and didnt hurt my saw. We mainly cut 20 in and up stump limit and heavy hardwood does a number on saw if saw gets pinched and tree wont let it go. Seen a couple that wasnt even worth carrying outta the woods. that makes for a bad day

Tree Dan

Quote from: so il logger on January 15, 2015, 05:39:30 PM
I hope the 661 is as dependable as 660. And hopefully more powerful. I havent found one yet that can take a tree getting on it. I got lucky awhile back because the ground was soft and didnt hurt my saw. We mainly cut 20 in and up stump limit and heavy hardwood does a number on saw if saw gets pinched and tree wont let it go. Seen a couple that wasnt even worth carrying outta the woods. that makes for a bad day
Logger that's exactly what happened to this saw...It was a pinch...and he ran
Wood Mizer LT40HD, Kubota KX71, New Holland LS150, Case TR270
6400 John Deere/with loader,General 20" planer, Stihl 880, Stihl 361, Dolmar 460, Husqvarna 50  and a few shovels,
60" and 30" Log Rite cant hooks, 2 home built Tree Spades, Homemade log splitter

HolmenTree

Tree Dan it looks like you're set up real nice for making lumber.
I think the 880 would be a better choice then the 661 for what you need a big saw for.
It's not going to win any speed cutting races but a heavy duty saw like that should do your slabbing work for years. It will only get stronger with use.
Making a living with a saw since age 16.

terrifictimbersllc

Dan, I'm up against the same question, see my thread close by "anyone using an MS880".   I want a saw for long bar ripping cutting off flare and using  41 and 50" bars to quarter some logs lengthwise.

But seemed like no one answering my questions in the other thread liked the MS880.  What do your people nearby who use the 880 think of it?

DJ Hoover, Terrific Timbers LLC,  Mystic CT Woodmizer Million Board Foot Club member. 2019 LT70 Super Wide 55 Yanmar,  LogRite fetching arch, WM BMS250 sharpener/BMT250 setter.  2001 F350 7.3L PSD 6 spd manual ZF 4x4 Crew Cab Long Bed

Tree Dan

Quote from: HolmenTree on January 15, 2015, 05:46:57 PM
Tree Dan it looks like you're set up real nice for making lumber.
I think the 880 would be a better choice then the 661 for what you need a big saw for.
It's not going to win any speed cutting races but a heavy duty saw like that should do your slabbing work for years. It will only get stronger with use.
Thanks, that good advice coming from you.
I use the 361 for most of my tree work . I have some big buggers here like...40 to 60" dia
I see some income on slabbing them and maybe the 661 will do it but the 880 runs the bad boy chain. so I thinking the 880 with a 36" bar or should I get the 41...plus the 60" bar for slabbing
Wood Mizer LT40HD, Kubota KX71, New Holland LS150, Case TR270
6400 John Deere/with loader,General 20" planer, Stihl 880, Stihl 361, Dolmar 460, Husqvarna 50  and a few shovels,
60" and 30" Log Rite cant hooks, 2 home built Tree Spades, Homemade log splitter

Tree Dan

Quote from: terrifictimbersllc on January 15, 2015, 05:56:09 PM
Dan, I'm up against the same question, see my thread close by "anyone using an MS880".   I want a saw for long bar ripping cutting off flare and using  41 and 50" bars to quarter some logs lengthwise.

But seemed like no one answering my questions in the other thread liked the MS880.  What do your people nearby who use the 880 think of it?

Yaa I just seen your thread,,,I would go for the 661 if your not doing any big slabing or feal some 80" monsters...The 661 rocks...and we have No problems with them up here,,,the guys like them more than the 660.
Wood Mizer LT40HD, Kubota KX71, New Holland LS150, Case TR270
6400 John Deere/with loader,General 20" planer, Stihl 880, Stihl 361, Dolmar 460, Husqvarna 50  and a few shovels,
60" and 30" Log Rite cant hooks, 2 home built Tree Spades, Homemade log splitter

HolmenTree

A 36" is alot of bar on a 660 as I've had them on my 066Mag. But with the length of the 880 powerhead that looks like a freight train I'd go 41".
I have a 60" on my 090 and its alot of steel
Chain if not kept tight derails easily on that bar when doing cuts  with the saw on its side.
880 has been well proven  since its introduction as a 084 way back in 1985-86.
Making a living with a saw since age 16.

terrifictimbersllc

Quote from: Tree Dan on January 15, 2015, 06:16:45 PM
Quote from: terrifictimbersllc on January 15, 2015, 05:56:09 PM
Dan, I'm up against the same question, see my thread close by "anyone using an MS880".   I want a saw for long bar ripping cutting off flare and using  41 and 50" bars to quarter some logs lengthwise.

But seemed like no one answering my questions in the other thread liked the MS880.  What do your people nearby who use the 880 think of it?

Yaa I just seen your thread,,,I would go for the 661 if your not doing any big slabing or feal some 80" monsters...The 661 rocks...and we have No problems with them up here,,,the guys like them more than the 660.
I'm wanting a saw to run 41" and 50" bars for quartering logs.   Same cut as slabbing, no?   No one has told me where to get a 50" bar for the 661 nor whether it would run it.
DJ Hoover, Terrific Timbers LLC,  Mystic CT Woodmizer Million Board Foot Club member. 2019 LT70 Super Wide 55 Yanmar,  LogRite fetching arch, WM BMS250 sharpener/BMT250 setter.  2001 F350 7.3L PSD 6 spd manual ZF 4x4 Crew Cab Long Bed

CX3

I have no input on the 661 but that 880 will pull the chips out for sure.  We used one for a while and it was flat out a cutter.  But good grief it should be it weighs a flat metric ton lol
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Al_Smith

If a person were going to do a lot of slabbing work it's hard to beat displacement .Huge trees for take down ,same .

A large saw new is two thousand bucks so  keep that in mind. Now I have 5 of them over 100 cc but they are older and I'm a collector not a lumber man .I have them if I need them but I don't make a living with them .

sawguy21

I can't get my head around paying 2 g's for a saw either. :D
old age and treachery will always overcome youth and enthusiasm

Tree Dan

Quote from: sawguy21 on January 16, 2015, 03:58:54 AM
I can't get my head around paying 2 g's for a saw either. :D

I know its a ton of dough, remember this is 2000 Canadian not US...our dollar is way down in the gutter.
But that saw can pay for itself peaty darn quick with a couple of $1000 tree jobs.
Im going for the ms 880.
Its a once in a while use saw for me, but so would the 661.  My main saw Is the 361 for my work.
Wood Mizer LT40HD, Kubota KX71, New Holland LS150, Case TR270
6400 John Deere/with loader,General 20" planer, Stihl 880, Stihl 361, Dolmar 460, Husqvarna 50  and a few shovels,
60" and 30" Log Rite cant hooks, 2 home built Tree Spades, Homemade log splitter

so il logger

For what you are going to use the 880 for I think you are making a good choice. Let us know how powerful that beast feels with a 36 in bar  ;D

Tree Dan

Quote from: terrifictimbersllc on January 15, 2015, 06:57:43 PM
Quote from: Tree Dan on January 15, 2015, 06:16:45 PM
Quote from: terrifictimbersllc on January 15, 2015, 05:56:09 PM
Dan, I'm up against the same question, see my thread close by "anyone using an MS880".   I want a saw for long bar ripping cutting off flare and using  41 and 50" bars to quarter some logs lengthwise.

But seemed like no one answering my questions in the other thread liked the MS880.  What do your people nearby who use the 880 think of it?

Yaa I just seen your thread,,,I would go for the 661 if your not doing any big slabing or feal some 80" monsters...The 661 rocks...and we have No problems with them up here,,,the guys like them more than the 660.
I'm wanting a saw to run 41" and 50" bars for quartering logs.   Same cut as slabbing, no?   No one has told me where to get a 50" bar for the 661 nor whether it would run it.

Look at Bailys for the long bar for the 661 ;D
Wood Mizer LT40HD, Kubota KX71, New Holland LS150, Case TR270
6400 John Deere/with loader,General 20" planer, Stihl 880, Stihl 361, Dolmar 460, Husqvarna 50  and a few shovels,
60" and 30" Log Rite cant hooks, 2 home built Tree Spades, Homemade log splitter

so il logger

Yes.. Baileys should offer a 50 in for 661 or 660. woodland pro brand i believe. they are built same as oregon but seem to last much longer

Al_Smith

I know nothing about a 661,never even saw one .As general information for what it's worth a 36" bar is about standard in these parts for an MS 660 .

I don't know where that information came from that it lacks the power because unless it were totaly worn out or badly tuned it certainly has enough to do the job .

I might also add the 084 which resides in my shed wears a 42" with .404 chisel skip .Doesn't see much action though.As a side note that 42" Oregon bar is actually for the 066 size mount that has the slot milled out .Works just fine .

so il logger

the 660 has power just wont hang with a 395 is all. From the factory all the way up till its wore slap out. I own and run both of them. I have even went as far as +2mm big bore top end, walkerized muffler, porting and polishing, and hi flow air filter set up. Sure it livened the 660 up but sure lost the durability

4x4American

I vote for the 880 while it's still available.  I bet an 881 is in the works.  Keep in mind that your regular 3003 mount bars won't fit the 880.  Not sure if they come with a .404 sprocket or .375.  Anyways, yea I'd wait a few years on the 661.  I just ran out and bought a 660r awhile back when I heard they weren't going to be producing them anymore, also cause my old 066 is getting a bit tired.  My old boss is a diehard Jonsered guy, or so I thought.  He used to give me a hard time for slingin stihls, then after I had stopped working there I went back to visit and he pulls out an 880 with a 5 foot bar.  I said look at that decided to switch to a real saw!  He loves it.  It isn't a racer by any stretch of the imagination, but boy will it pull a big bar.  It's a torque monster, not a hp demon.
Boy, back in my day..

4x4American

Quote from: terrifictimbersllc on January 15, 2015, 06:57:43 PM
Quote from: Tree Dan on January 15, 2015, 06:16:45 PM
Quote from: terrifictimbersllc on January 15, 2015, 05:56:09 PM
Dan, I'm up against the same question, see my thread close by "anyone using an MS880".   I want a saw for long bar ripping cutting off flare and using  41 and 50" bars to quarter some logs lengthwise.

But seemed like no one answering my questions in the other thread liked the MS880.  What do your people nearby who use the 880 think of it?

Yaa I just seen your thread,,,I would go for the 661 if your not doing any big slabing or feal some 80" monsters...The 661 rocks...and we have No problems with them up here,,,the guys like them more than the 660.
I'm wanting a saw to run 41" and 50" bars for quartering logs.   Same cut as slabbing, no?   No one has told me where to get a 50" bar for the 661 nor whether it would run it.

Go to baileys.  they sell a 3003 mount 42" bar and a 50" bar.  If a 660 will pull it I bet that a 661 would too.  They wouldn't make a bar to fit the saw if it won't adequately pull it, at least I wouldn't think so. 
Boy, back in my day..

Al_Smith

Well now a 660 or an 066 won't hang with my 30 year old Husqvarna 2100 either but that's not the point in question .

I don't get it .Seems like everybody thinks a fairly large work saw should  cut like a 120 plus cc hotsaw in 8 by 8 poplar cants . ???  Where did that come from ?

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