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Re: WM vs. Norwood vs Hud-Son vs. ? (Looking for a NEW MILL!)
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2014, 04:53:20 pm »
hey engineer vt. craigslist ,in heavy equipment,has a 4 year old norwood mx 34?never used with twenty blades and trailer setup,asking 8k in island pond.its a haul but looks nice.
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Re: WM vs. Norwood vs Hud-Son vs. ? (Looking for a NEW MILL!)
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2014, 05:49:15 pm »
Woodmizer has that new LT15 Wide out, I believe it can saw up to a 36" log they claim.

Hud-Son's are an affordable unit.  My friend has an Oscar and is happy with it.

Norwood's are good units too.
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Re: WM vs. Norwood vs Hud-Son vs. ? (Looking for a NEW MILL!)
« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2014, 06:11:10 pm »

the answer is in your budget :)
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Re: WM vs. Norwood vs Hud-Son vs. ? (Looking for a NEW MILL!)
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2014, 07:06:50 pm »
I bought a TK 2000 diesel not too long ago and have not been impressed with it's accuracy.  The mill is all there, but if you're meticulous....

Woodmizer has that new LT15 Wide out, I believe it can saw up to a 36" log they claim.

Hud-Son's are an affordable unit.  My friend has an Oscar and is happy with it.

Norwood's are good units too.

If your TK2000 won't cut accurate lumber, then there is a problem not inherent to the mill.
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Re: WM vs. Norwood vs Hud-Son vs. ? (Looking for a NEW MILL!)
« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2014, 03:52:43 pm »
Quote from: Dave Shepard link=topic=79023.msg1202300#msg1202300
If your TK2000 won't cut accurate lumber, then there is a problem not inherent to the mill.
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Dave, no mill can cut good lumber without a good operator, but it is definitely true that it is easier for any operator to get good results with a good mill.
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« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2014, 07:56:43 am »
Every mill is different (sometimes, even the same manufacturer & model).  If the mill isn't cutting accurately, it is up to the sawyer to figure out the reason.  Most will be dead accurate if set up correctly, though this is easier with some mills than with others.  I figure running a sawmill is about 50% understanding the wood, and 65% being a good mechanic.  Norwood was good choice for me because the solid frame and carriage meant less time spent tweaking the mill, the option to assemble it myself saved a good amount of money, and I can add hydraulics later.
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« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2014, 08:12:04 am »
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« Reply #27 on: November 20, 2014, 02:29:56 am »
I do not have a mill yet but after seeing and talking to alot of sales reps at Boonville fair,the Norwood seems to be the one for me.The thing that sells me is that to upgrade a Norwood does not cost extra money in the long run. I can upgrade to hydraulics down the road if I want and only pay the difference from the price of the std mill to the hydro mill,not some inflated price.

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« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2014, 07:48:52 am »
Be sure to opt for the biggest engine, especially if you may be adding hydraulics in the future.  The 23 hp B&S Vanguard has been very reliable for me.  Give some thought to support equipment (tractor, trailer, truck, chain saws, cant hooks, etc.).  The Norwood folks are great to deal with!
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« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2014, 08:04:16 pm »
The Norwood, I do believe, is one of those mills that caters best to people who are mediocre mechanics. By that, I mean, they are able to do mechanical work, but it doesn't come first nature to them. Like me.
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Re: WM vs. Norwood vs Hud-Son vs. ? (Looking for a NEW MILL!)
« Reply #30 on: November 20, 2014, 09:32:04 pm »
cant go wrong with hudson for cheap manual mills i have a 228 that i have had for years sawed lots of logs with it but a hard day to get 1200 bdft out of cut rr ties for bout a year and half one time. We bought a b20 timberking and got it set up and sawing last week i cut about 8500 bdft cypress with it and love  8) i sure hope i never have to go back manual
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Re: WM vs. Norwood vs Hud-Son vs. ? (Looking for a NEW MILL!)
« Reply #31 on: November 23, 2014, 06:47:57 am »
sandsawmill14,welcome to the forum. Sounds like you just brought the timberking? Good luck with it.  ;D
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« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2014, 08:01:13 am »
Welcome to the Forestry Forum, sandsawmill14.   8)
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« Reply #33 on: November 23, 2014, 08:15:15 am »
Engineer,
I share the other guys opinions about looking around for a good lightly used mill.  Many will purchase a mill for a chosen project, then will sell it.  We have quite a few in Michigan.   Good luck,,,,,,Ed

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« Reply #34 on: November 23, 2014, 08:12:19 pm »
thanks for the welcome  yes we just bought the timberking. The cypress was first weeks sawing 44 hr work week.
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« Reply #35 on: November 24, 2014, 08:43:29 am »
Sandsawmill, welcome!  The bigger the log, the more you'll appreciate hydraulics.  Looking forward to seeing some photos.
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« Reply #36 on: November 24, 2014, 04:01:29 pm »
For me, I looked at a lot of mills. I think for many, it is just a ford/chevy kind of choice.

But I have to say, when you talk to owners, the one thing I noticed was the opinion of support and backing by the manufacturer by owners. I personally choose Wood-Mizer. Just my Chevy I guess. I was ready to buy a new rig but found a lot bigger (and better for production and ease of use) low hour rig on craigslist at a price that was thousands cheaper than the smaller new unit I was going to buy.

Then I towed the rig up to the dealer (400 miles round trip) to have them look it over and teach me how to operate it. That is when I was convinced I bought into the right company.

My suggestion is to keep looking on craigslist and used mill sites. Just because of your budget. You can get a lot of bang for your bucks buying a low hour used unit.
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« Reply #37 on: November 24, 2014, 04:39:18 pm »
I purchased a new LT15 two years ago and give it back to WM due to some defects. I wound up buying a used LT40. If I were shopping again for one of those size mills, I would be sure to look at the Timberking 1220 in person as it seems to me to be the better one.

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« Reply #38 on: November 24, 2014, 09:19:56 pm »
I saw a post (no pun here, really!)  WM has a 'black Friday" sale.  Maybe they really mean Orange Friday?

http://www.woodmizer.com/us/blackfriday2014.aspx

I have had an lt15 and 2 LT40's .  Most of the big names out there are pretty good.  For me, I want a Mizer :)
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« Reply #39 on: November 24, 2014, 09:28:54 pm »
Sandsawmill, welcome!  The bigger the log, the more you'll appreciate hydraulics.  Looking forward to seeing some photos.

thanks dboyt  I will try to get some pics up in a few days if I can figure out how.  I'm a little better around a sawmill than a computer :D but im workin on it :P
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