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WM vs. Norwood vs Hud-Son vs. ? (Looking for a NEW MILL!)
« on: November 11, 2014, 12:23:37 pm »
Well I said a few years back that I probably would not own another mill.  I think I lied.  :-\

I am going to try to build a garage/wood shop with rough-sawn lumber over the next year or so, and I think I would like to invest in a new mill to cut the lumber for the garage.  I also expect to cut some of my own trees and "found" logs for woodworking projects.  More than likely I won't need to cut anything over 16 feet long, or too big in diameter.  If I get something bigger than a mill's capacity, I will quarter it with a chainsaw.  So, what I am looking for is in the category of "personal/hobbyist" mill.  Models I have looked at include WoodMizer LT15, Norwood LM29 and MN26, Hudson Oscar 328.  The only one I have been able to see in person (and operate) is the WM LT15.  I am in the $4500 to $6500 range, do not need a trailer package or any kind of hydraulics/electronics.  Like to cut at least a 24" diameter log.  Off-the-shelf parts are a big plus, as are "standard" blades.  I also want to stick to new or very lightly used bandmills.

So can any of you offer your opinions on these mills and give me an idea of similar mills with similar capabilities?  I always thought I wanted another Wood-Mizer, and almost bought a LT-15 a few months ago, but I would like to get peoples' opinions on a few other manufacturers and see if there's a better option.

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Re: WM vs. Norwood vs Hud-Son vs. ? (Looking for a NEW MILL!)
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2014, 01:04:28 pm »
look at the timber king mills also they are well bult I think

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Re: WM vs. Norwood vs Hud-Son vs. ? (Looking for a NEW MILL!)
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2014, 01:32:07 pm »
Ez boardwalk jr. Falls into the same class. Nobody can say which one is "better". Its the old chevy vs ford  debate...
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Re: WM vs. Norwood vs Hud-Son vs. ? (Looking for a NEW MILL!)
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2014, 01:47:30 pm »
Good afternoon,

Looking quickly I see a new LT-15 is priced at $7295
In your price range you can get a dandy mill
with some upgrades and still be under your max budget.

Here is a thread to refer to
  http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,78860.0.html?PHPSESSID=f82cfc776a3621f65a7eb9d6dea53ebc

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Re: WM vs. Norwood vs Hud-Son vs. ? (Looking for a NEW MILL!)
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2014, 04:22:03 pm »
I was recently in the market for a sawmill, and I checked the craigslist ads for about 4 months straight using searchtempest in a 750 mile radius from my house.

I frequently saw ads for LT15's in your price range.  I ended up getting the exact mill I wanted, an LT40 hydraulic with debarker and accuset, for having just a little bit of patience for around $15K less than new cost, and my mill only has 190 hours on it.

There are a lot of used mills out there with break-in usage only on them, and you can save a few thousand bucks easy.
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2014, 06:13:58 pm »
I bought a new Lt15 electric 2 years ago and I am very happy with it.   I am very glad I went electric.    What ever mill you get consider going electric.   No smell, very little noise and less maintenance.

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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2014, 06:23:46 pm »
I wish you the best in your sawmill search.  You will know it when you see it.   smiley_thumbsup
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2014, 06:31:59 pm »
I have been able to touch and feel both the Oscar 328 and LT10. In my opinion, the LT10 was stronger, sturdier, and better built than the Oscar. Should I say, the LT10 had a more commercial grade feel and the Oscar had a more home owner feel.
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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2014, 07:09:46 pm »

I went orange 11 years ago because of the follow on service and reputation.    I agree, it's the Ford / Chevy issue.    If it was me, I'd go Ford.    I've always like orange.  ;D
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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2014, 07:43:28 pm »
I can't speak to the Hudson, but the LT-15 has a great reputation, and has a great company backing it. The Norwood is also a very good mill for the personal sawyer. My cousin has had one for around 15 years and loves it.
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Re: WM vs. Norwood vs Hud-Son vs. ? (Looking for a NEW MILL!)
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2014, 07:47:19 pm »
Quote from: woodworker9 link=topic=79023.msg1199801#msg1199801
There are a lot of used mills out there with break-in usage only on them, and you can save a few thousand bucks easy.

I second that. Since you are within budget, get one that is slightly used, low hours. . . . unless you just have to have that "new mill smell."
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Re: WM vs. Norwood vs Hud-Son vs. ? (Looking for a NEW MILL!)
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2014, 07:54:24 pm »
I can only speak for Norwood as it is the only mill I have run. My LM2000 is in it's 14th year and still cutting straight and true.

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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2014, 09:57:39 pm »
Hey Engineer, good to see you back on here, it's been a while!

Good luck on your hunt for a mill.

Don't overlook USED, lots of times there are very good deals out there!
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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2014, 07:21:24 am »
Kingcha is right about the electric part. I don't use mine much. Only when a building project jumps up. I have been lucky that I have not had carb problems with mine. I might of gone the electric route if I would have find this place before I brought mine.
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2014, 07:40:33 am »
Engineer, why don't you build one, you've used a bandmill and know what you like and don't like. I would give serious consideration to an electric mill, probably 7 1/2 hp would do anything you wanted. Frank C.
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« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2014, 08:15:15 am »
In your price range, not needing a trailer package gives you lots of options.  Norwood has been a great company to work with, and I'm pleased with the performance of my mill (HD36).  Contacting any of the companies mentioned would probably get you a list of customers in your area.  You'll probably get some offers from FF members, as well (you're welcome to come to southwest Missouri & make some sawdust with my mill).  There's just no substitute for getting out there and seeing a mill run in person.
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« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2014, 10:09:10 am »
I purchased a new Timberking 1220 mill a few years ago and certainly a wonderful machine and would highly recommend this machine. The only problems with the machine so far are only the mistakes I make. Will cut up to 29" diameter and one extra rail will get you out past 18 feet.

Certainly my best purchase in many years. 

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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2014, 07:59:20 pm »
JohnM and me checked out Norwood at a expo almost 2 years ago. What impressed me was the options. The all manual mill would be a certain price,but if you added all the options to it over a period of years,all the options would not cost you anymore than if you brought them all at once.
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« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2014, 08:27:27 pm »
Engineer, why don't you build one, you've used a bandmill and know what you like and don't like. I would give serious consideration to an electric mill, probably 7 1/2 hp would do anything you wanted. Frank C.

Definitely want something "off-the-shelf".  I'm no fabricator, and for sure don't have the time to build something.  I also may transport the mill occasionally so electric is out.

I'm going to contact manufacturers, as I'd like to see some of the other brands in action.  You can only get so much from brochures, websites and YouTube.

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« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2014, 09:10:05 pm »
look at the timber king mills also they are well bult I think

I've seen the 1220 up close, and it is a very impressive mill.  Nothing small about it, very robust machine for the price!
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