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Started by brendonv, September 03, 2014, 06:54:17 PM

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brendonv

I had a bunch of full size 2x4 and 2x6 white pine milled weeks ago. I am buildng a shed.

What sort of fasteners would you recommend for the framing of walls and such. . Also what diameter and length?
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Normally I thought the rule was that 2/3 of the fastener should be in the wood behind the piece being nailed on. And that means you'd need 6" nails to hold the 2by on. I can't remember what size my air powered nail gun shoots but they are a lot shorter than that. Something like 3 1/2" or so. And then they are toe nailed in.

I don't know if any of this is helpful to you or not.

I know they do make a 6" ring shank nail for building barns or pole barns. And they are called pole barn nails. I don't remember the diameters but not real big in diameter.

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brendonv

I ended up with 6" 60d galv timber nails. Wish i used them in other parts of the project. They drive and hold really nice.
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Dave Shepard

Bostich makes a timber nailer that does big spikes, 6", I think. Google Big Bertha.
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Dave Shepard

 :o :o That's nuts. You can get a regular Bostich framer for $230. Heck, you could get a small shed delivered for $3200. :D
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I would think it has some serious recoil. Wonder how much the nials for it cost?
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Bostitch BRT130 nailer will shoot 4" to 5-1/8" nails, goes from $430 to $470, and a box of 1000 galv 5-1/8" nails is just over $100.00.  I've been looking at buying one recently for some upcoming projects. 

5-1/8" might not meet the 2/3 embedded in the supporting timber rule if you were nailing anything bigger than 2" but I'd feel ok nailing true 2" to true 2" with 4" pneumatic nails.

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brendonv

If you think about it they arent using 4.5" nails using conventional stick framing.  More like 3.5" 3.25"
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Dave Shepard

We use 16d (3-1/2") nails for conventional stick framing with store bought lumber. You could also get some 4" screws and screw together any critical joints. I really like the torx head screws.
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brendonv

I used torx heads on the base. They are big money though. The 6" nails went in great. Wished I used them on the floor too.
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jwilly3879

Those 6" spikes can be driven quite easily with an air powered palm nailer. Used one all the time driving galvanized spikes in PT lumber.

brendonv

They are easy by hand too. Its coming along!

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LOOKS GOOD, I have went to using the torx head screws in most of my work.

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