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Started by Ga Mtn Man, August 23, 2014, 08:47:05 PM

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Ga Mtn Man

I've lost the vent cap for the lube tank on my LT40 and WM doesn't offer a replacement.  I've checked every cap on every bottle in my house and can't find anything to fit.  I'm thinking of threading the inside of the hole and installing some sort of a one-way air admittance valve.  Anyone got an idea or suggestion?
"If the women don't find you handsome they should at least find you handy." - Red Green


2012 LT40HDG29 with "Superized" hydraulics,  2 LogRite cant hooks, home-built log arch.

Dave Shepard

What, you don't like getting squirted on the head when the mill stops? :D I still have my original, I think, but the tank is long gone. Ordered two new tanks this summer, and put the caps in the toolbox. I bet something could be found a McMaster-Carr, or something like that. Let us know, I would thread mine and put a vent in there.
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Magicman

I just screwed the top on tight and drilled a small hole in the tank beside it with my knife point.  If I lost the cap, I would use Goop or something to close that hole.
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leroy in kansas

Well, ya could measure the size needed then go to the supermarket or walmart and buy what ever has the correct size.   8)

Ga Mtn Man

Quote from: Magicman on August 23, 2014, 10:37:40 PM
I just screwed the top on tight and drilled a small hole in the tank beside it with my knife point.  If I lost the cap, I would use Goop or something to close that hole.

I don't think I could sleep at night knowing I had bored a hole in my mill with a knife and covered another with Goop.  I'm just a little too up-tight about things like that for my own good. :-\
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2012 LT40HDG29 with "Superized" hydraulics,  2 LogRite cant hooks, home-built log arch.

LeeB

My lube tank came from WM with a hole already bored in it. Same with the new one I just bought. actually never noticied it until I got the new one. No vent valve. I must be missing some part of the equation here.
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

Nomad

     Getting splashed with lube when the mill stops is annoying.  (I can't find a cap that fits it either.)
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Ga Mtn Man

Quote from: LeeB on August 23, 2014, 11:18:45 PM
My lube tank came from WM with a hole already bored in it. Same with the new one I just bought. actually never noticied it until I got the new one. No vent valve. I must be missing some part of the equation here.

Mine has had a small screw-on cap just above the handle that is intended to be loosened to vent the tank.
"If the women don't find you handsome they should at least find you handy." - Red Green


2012 LT40HDG29 with "Superized" hydraulics,  2 LogRite cant hooks, home-built log arch.

sprucebunny

I don't know what the cap looks like but here's an idea.

Find a cap that is a little bigger. Cover the threads  on the tank with plastic wrap.
Put silicone caulk into the cap. ( you may need to thicken the silicone by mixing corn starch into it. This will also make it set up faster)
Put the cap on the threaded part and let it set up.
Voila ! ???



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LeeB

Do you suppose that would be diesel resistant?  :D I sure could have used an idea like that the other day.
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

bandmiller2

I would call wood-mizer  and ask who they buy the tanks from, that company has a whole bin full. Probibly some gas can top would work unless WM gets the tanks from Hong Kong Harry. Frank C.
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petefrom bearswamp

I'm guessing that you fellows (and gals) must ride, walk or have the command control center in the factory position.
I have swung  my CC about 20 degrees inward as I got tired of craning my neck to look down the log/cant.
Board return is not a problem as i built a deflection piece to keep the boards from hitting me.
My lube/coolant bottle came without a cap.
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Magicman

Correct LeeB.  The older lube jugs did not have a screw cap, just a small pre-drilled vent hole.  I did not like the new one because I forgot to loosen the cap a few times.  Retrofitting it back like the old one was worked fine.

Loosen up Paul, a vent hole will not end the world.  Use your drill and it will make a neater hole.   ;D
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Ga Mtn Man

Quote from: bandmiller2 on August 24, 2014, 08:00:48 AM
I would call wood-mizer  and ask who they buy the tanks from, that company has a whole bin full. Probibly some gas can top would work unless WM gets the tanks from Hong Kong Harry. Frank C.

I did call WM GA and WM Indy and was told by both that replacement caps are not available.

Quote from: Magicman on August 24, 2014, 08:35:54 AM
Correct LeeB.  The older lube jugs did not have a screw cap, just a small pre-drilled vent hole.  I did not like the new one because I forgot to loosen the cap a few times.  Retrofitting it back like the old one was worked fine.

Loosen up Paul, a vent hole will not end the world.  Use your drill and it will make a neater hole.   ;D

I can't do it Magicman.  This is a non-problem that requires an engineering fix.  I'm on it smiley_book2_page :).
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2012 LT40HDG29 with "Superized" hydraulics,  2 LogRite cant hooks, home-built log arch.

LeeB

Go to a wine makers supply and get a spigot. You can then drill a 1/2" hole in the jug and affix the spigot. Open the valve for venting and close it for storage.
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

drobertson

Lost mine years ago, I just fill below the hole,  I have stuck a stick in it,  I kinda liked the idea of a larger cap filled with silicon,
only have a few chain saws I'm not suppose to use, but will at times, one dog Dolly, pretty good dog, just not sure what for yet,  working on getting the gardening back in order, and kinda thinking on maybe a small bbq bizz,  thinking about it,

LeeB

'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

POSTON WIDEHEAD

Jeff's probably got several Forestry Forum caps left.  running-doggy
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LeeB

'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

tjhammer

Ga Mtn Man I have on ideal what size the cap size is but if a wine bottle cork will fit drill a hole in the cork and install a clear plastic hose long enough to fall over so the saw dust won't be sucked in the tank wine corks are great tools tj
hammer

terrifictimbersllc

5/16 bolt coarse thread blocks the splash and spill but still lets in air
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Ga Mtn Man

Quote from: LeeB on August 24, 2014, 09:26:57 AM
This looks even better and I think I'll order a pack for all of my gas cans.

http://www.amazon.com/YELLOW-Chilton-Briggs-Rotopax-Rubbermaid/dp/B00MNC6L24/ref=pd_sim_sbs_lg_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1JD03J1NH957TX15FZGE

I'll have to check the inside diameter of the existing spout to see if these will work but, regardless, I'm gonna order some of these for my gas cans.  Good find!
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2012 LT40HDG29 with "Superized" hydraulics,  2 LogRite cant hooks, home-built log arch.

LeeB

You got me started, but yeah, good find. may have to put this on the general board for everyone to see. We all hate the new style gas cans.
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

j-dland

   A boat plug works well for me , and the hole is big enough for adding water from a hose.
David

beenthere

QuoteWe all hate the new style gas cans.

I must be different, or have a different "new style".  I have the "no spill" style.  No venting problems and like the cans.

http://www.amazon.com/No-Spill-1450-5-Gallon-Poly-Compliant/dp/B000W9JN4S
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trapper

Quote from: beenthere on August 24, 2014, 02:48:53 PM
QuoteWe all hate the new style gas cans.

I must be different, or have a different "new style".  I have the "no spill" style.  No venting problems and like the cans.

http://www.amazon.com/No-Spill-1450-5-Gallon-Poly-Compliant/dp/B000W9JN4S
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bandmiller2

Rubber butt plug would probably work. Frank C.
A man armed with common sense is packing a big piece

Ga Mtn Man

I'm afraid to even ask...What the heck is a rubber butt plug? :o
"If the women don't find you handsome they should at least find you handy." - Red Green


2012 LT40HDG29 with "Superized" hydraulics,  2 LogRite cant hooks, home-built log arch.

POSTON WIDEHEAD

The older I get I wish my body could Re-Gen.

Brucer

Perhaps someone who hasn't lost their's yet could scan it and send you the file. Then you could go to your local library and 3D print it :D :D.
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bandmiller2

Ga mtn man, measure the opening and the outside thread. Hard to believe we can't come up with something. Even a tapered wood plug would work. Frank C.
A man armed with common sense is packing a big piece

Magicman

A golf tee would work well, but it would keep Paul from sleeping.   zzzz_smiley   :D
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It's Weird being the Same Age as Old People

Never allow your "need" to make money to exceed your "desire" to provide quality service.....The Magicman

Ga Mtn Man

There have been several good ideas posted already.  I've ordered the vents that LeeB posted and in the mean time I'm going to try a 5/16" bolt as terriffictimbersllc suggested.  Ideally I would like something that lets air in but no liquid out.  There is a nylon check valve on mcmaster-carr that I think would work but it's $15 plus shipping.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#one-way-flow-valves/=tfkm5j

So you're not gonna tell me what a rubber butt plug is ???.
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2012 LT40HDG29 with "Superized" hydraulics,  2 LogRite cant hooks, home-built log arch.

sprucebunny

Rubber butt plug that I am familiar with is used on a boat.
Usualley about a ⅝" or larger opening.
Famous for being forgotten  :D
Rubber sleeve between two washers that are brought closer together by a bolt /eye bolt sort of thing.
There is also a flipper with a cam to further expand the rubber sleeve.
:)

Sorry my threaded plug thing isn't useful. Ya... I'd just put a screw/bolt of some kind in it.
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beenthere

SB
Those plugs were used years ago for plugging a thermos bottle.
That delicate bottle in the lunch box that would keep things cold or hot, and used everyday for school lunch. 

Called Snap-tite IIRC.
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autotomk

first post here on the forum  ive only been registered since 09 hellow to every one  very impresed with forum.   hope to join in with topics  defenently could use help with strugling buisness.  my vent cap disapered in the saw dust long time ago  i just stuck small screw in hole  still vents and no splash  im not seeing spell checker that could be trouble for me, or i guess you guys ??? 
To God be the glory.

LeeB

Welcome autotomk. Don't worry too much about the spell check. You're assuming we can read.  :D :D
'98 LT40HDD/Lombardini, Case 580L, Cat D4C, JD 3032 tractor, JD 5410 tractor, Husky 346, 372 and 562XP's. Stihl MS180 and MS361, 1998 and 2006 3/4 Ton 5.9 Cummins 4x4's, 1989 Dodge D100 w/ 318, and a 1966 Chevy C60 w/ dump bed.

Ga Mtn Man

Never one to leave well enough alone, here's what I came up:

 
A PCV valve with 3/8" barb, cost less than $4.  Drilled the spout to 3/8" and tapped the valve in with a rubber mallet for a water-tight fit.


 
Upside down with fluid in the tank and no leaks :).
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2012 LT40HDG29 with "Superized" hydraulics,  2 LogRite cant hooks, home-built log arch.

Magicman

Congrats.  Does this mean that you can now sleep at night ??   ???   8)
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It's Weird being the Same Age as Old People

Never allow your "need" to make money to exceed your "desire" to provide quality service.....The Magicman

thecfarm

autotomk,google has a spell check,thank God!!!! But there are times I think all is well and I don't check it.  ::) or I get my words messed up.
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autotomk

i guess i see your problem now  my lube tank has the vent in the back( oposite the handle) and sticking up,  2002 lt 40hd
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