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Jeff needs help on well question.

Started by Wildflower, June 01, 2014, 06:39:38 PM

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Wildflower

Jeff has been in the UP all week trying to hand drive a well. He was at 27 feet driving 1 1/4 pipe when his homemade driver broke. 2 length of  3/4 inch pipe each 2.5 feet long dropped to the bottom of his well. The 3/4 pipe is not hollow it is plugged off. Will water still come around it or should he just quit. He thinks the water is between 30 and 35 feet.
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Gary_C

It may be possible to fish those pieces out of the larger pipe. One method would be to glue a strong magnet like a cow magnet into some 3/4 inch pvc pipe and try to lift those pieces out.

Or maybe to guide a wire down inside some pvc pipe and hook the pieces and pull them out.

It kind of depends on what the 3/4 pipe looks like, but the water could flow up thru and around the inside of the 1 1/4 pipe but long term it could cause rust in your water.
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Autocar

Guess I don't understand what you have I always thought that in the U.P. you drove a pointed pipe with a bunch of little holes drilled about a foot and a half from the point then screw another pipe on repeating this till you were in the water table. Then the water came though the holes and was drawn to the surface by your pump.
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scsmith42

Quote from: Gary_C on June 01, 2014, 07:23:30 PM
It may be possible to fish those pieces out of the larger pipe. One method would be to glue a strong magnet like a cow magnet into some 3/4 inch pvc pipe and try to lift those pieces out.

Or maybe to guide a wire down inside some pvc pipe and hook the pieces and pull them out.

It kind of depends on what the 3/4 pipe looks like, but the water could flow up thru and around the inside of the 1 1/4 pipe but long term it could cause rust in your water.

He can also machine a gentle taper on the inside of a pvc pipe that would allow him to slip fit it over the end of the 3/4 pipe and snug.  OR, if he has power available he can cut a smooth end on some garden hose, slip it down to the pipe and hook the other end up to a shop vacuum.  The suction may be strong enough to keep the pipe sucked to the end of the hose, allowing him to pull it up.  He might have to install some type of soft rubber connection on the bottom of the garden hose to help ensure that the pipe snugs up to it.
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Corley5

It needs to come out.  It'll restrict the flow of water if left in.  I'd try a magnet on a stick.
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Wildflower

Jeff Got the 2 pieces of pipe out. 8) 8) 8)
He used pvc pipe and split about 3 inched length wise and taped 3 sections together and slipped it over the metal pipe and pulled it out. Thank you all for your help.
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Gary_C

Yankee ingenuity prevails.   8) 8) 8)

No grits needed.  :D :D :D   (not what I typed but you get the idea anyway)
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isawlogs

 Tammy , I'm happy to hear he got them out.  8)
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Smoked Sucker

:D :D :D :D

I had to try it myself.
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Better than thecfarm brand grits.  :D
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mesquite buckeye

Can I just say G R I T S ??? ??? ??? ;D ;D 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :snowball: :snowball: :snowball:
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I kinda feel that way about smoked sucker.   steve_smiley steve_smiley
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coxy

Quote from: Texas Ranger on June 01, 2014, 10:32:31 PM
I kinda feel that way about smoked sucker.   steve_smiley steve_smiley
Quote from: mesquite buckeye on June 01, 2014, 10:29:11 PM
Can I just say G R I T S ??? ??? ??? ;D ;D 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :snowball: :snowball: :snowball:
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Warbird

What I really want to know is if he got water or not?  :)

stumpy

I believe the furthest you can pump water with a shallow well pump is 24' He may want to check with a local well company about this.
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Magicman

I imagine that after he smoked sucked that sucker pipe out he took a much deserved break.   8)
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Mooseherder

Our shallow well pump is located by the house.  The run to the well head and check valve is around 80 feet.  The well is around 30 foot deep.  The check valve should allow for longer run if needed.

redprospector

Wow! You guy's are lucky. 200' deep would be considered a shallow well here.
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isawlogs

 I have a surface well, spring comes out of ground, have three ciment tiles and a cover, one of the tiles is out of the ground.
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Jeff

Big day today. I finally got internet here at the cabin so I can keep in touch now while I work on our property, plus I THINK I HAVE WATER!

Know anyone else that drove a well using an lp gas tank and a TV antenna? :D

Here is a short video clip of my home made driver. The tank is filled with sand and weighs around 100 lbs.

http://youtu.be/ybUyk670_pk
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Jeff

Just call me the midget doctor.
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thecfarm

It worked. Was the tank full of sand,water??
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clww

Quote from: redprospector on June 02, 2014, 11:34:59 AM
Wow! You guy's are lucky. 200' deep would be considered a shallow well here.
It would be about halfway there at our cabin in the mountains. :(

Glad it's working out for your there, Jeff. :)
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Ya must have some real nice soft ground.  :)  I don't think yer setup would punch through da sod at my camp.  :-\  I think my 40 is sittin' on one giant boulder.  :'(
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