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Author Topic: HFE-21 vs LUMBER SMITH  (Read 4310 times)

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Re: HFE-21 vs LUMBER SMITH
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2014, 08:35:20 pm »
Welcome to the forum, and I probably agree with qbilder. I also have a Lumbersmith and really like it, have had no problems and the motor runs great, The saws are a bit different though, as with the lumbersmith you make your own frame to roll it on. The big difference may be if you want to saw long boards, you can make the rails as long as you want with the Lumbersmith. Its also totally portable. I like it but will eventually get one with the metal rails and is more "Fixed"

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Re: HFE-21 vs LUMBER SMITH
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2014, 07:36:41 pm »
Greetings all,

I'll have to say hello properly one of these days, but till then:  I just purchased a Lumber Smith myself and am assembling it.  Initial gut feeling from my interaction with Lumber Smith people and the design/build of the thing, is good.   

I have acreage and need to do a lot of thinning for long term forest health and figure that i can pull lumber from some stuff and the rest is firewood.  For this limited "hobby" type of work the Lumber Smith seemed to be the way to go.  I also like all the aluminum and stainless it's made of as well as the fact that I can take it to the tree or leave it at the yard.  Whatever is most convenient.  Steel tracks are in process right now though, as I see no need to limit cut length.

We'll see, proofs in the pudding as I have not milled anything with it yet.

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Re: HFE-21 vs LUMBER SMITH
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2014, 07:39:05 pm »
Britbike2001,welcome to the forum. Good luck with the mill. I have never seen a Lumber Smith being used.
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Re: HFE-21 vs LUMBER SMITH
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2014, 09:58:05 pm »
I too used to have the Lumbersmith. Great guys to work with. I agree with qbilder and OH boy. Might be too small for your needs but VERY portable. I used it to cut birch. You can see me on you tube if you search Lumbersmith. Good mill, but not for daily use. Swamp
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Re: HFE-21 vs LUMBER SMITH
« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2017, 01:48:56 am »
 Waking up an old thread with a question:
Here are three pictures of used Lumber Smith mill offered to me for sale:

 

 

 

 



 

Has anyone bought or sold one of these?  It's about a year old, and I like the fact that it's made of aluminum and stainless steel like my Peterson. But the comments above from 2014 make it sound like almost a toy.   It's a distressed situation so the price probably won't be high, but I'm wondering what the market is on it so I can be fair.  According to the lumber Smith website, they aren't making any of these right now, currently called the Bantam.

Photos are from the owner, I have not seen the mill.

The Case backhoe in the background needs a new transmission I'm told.
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Re: HFE-21 vs LUMBER SMITH
« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2017, 01:02:47 pm »
I've been checking out some video's on entry level band mills and noticed the engine often surges off the govenor causing the carriage to rock slightly which should affect the quality of the cut.



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Re: HFE-21 vs LUMBER SMITH
« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2017, 03:51:38 pm »
I kinda thought this was the lumbersmith sawmill they were talking about.


Could be the same company?

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Re: HFE-21 vs LUMBER SMITH
« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2017, 05:07:01 pm »
My Lumber Smith looks like the one Paul posted. That other one looks like a typical small band mill. I have no experience with it.
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Re: HFE-21 vs LUMBER SMITH
« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2017, 05:42:11 pm »
They certainly do look like two different machines, except for the color;  I'll post again when I go see the local one.
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Re: HFE-21 vs LUMBER SMITH
« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2017, 06:10:59 pm »
Looks like they make 2 models.

The DIY wooden tracks one like Paul's video, and a more upmarket one with steel tracks
Some specs on it here.
http://lumbersmith.com/Mobile/bantam.html
Looks like a pretty standard design small manual band mill with a little Briggs or Honda engine. Web page say's they don't have any mills for sale at the moment, but you can order parts if needed. I imagine most of the parts would be pretty standard belts / bearings etc that you could buy locally anyway.
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Re: HFE-21 vs LUMBER SMITH
« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2017, 01:11:56 am »
 I couldn't find the price on the Bantam, which appears to be the one that I'm being shown. It's not clear  what's going on from the website, and I did note there are no parts showing as available for the bathroom. The website has a copyright date of 2009, which makes me wonder if it's being updated.

On the Elite, keeping the example wooden tracks parallel, level, and square could prove to be a challenge. Metal tracks would definitely be preferable.

 I found myself curious about their log holding equipment for $75. I think I just spent too much on my custom-made ones.
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Re: HFE-21 vs LUMBER SMITH
« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2017, 05:06:05 am »
I couldn't find the price on the Bantam, which appears to be the one that I'm being shown. It's not clear  what's going on from the website, and I did note there are no parts showing as available for the bathroom.

That durn spellcheck again?

I needed to laugh. May have woke the family up with that one.

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Re: HFE-21 vs LUMBER SMITH
« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2017, 09:14:38 am »
Spellcheck? Spellcheck? I don have no spellcheck.   I don't need no stinking spellcheck.

Why, I've got Siri to keep me in line.  Oh boy, does that remind me of an old joke.

 I'll look up & post a YouTube link for the movie reference I "paraphrased".
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Re: HFE-21 vs LUMBER SMITH
« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2017, 03:43:14 am »
OK, now I have seen and started up the Lumber Smith mill.  That was successful, and I was happy until I found out that Elizabeth only had one blade for it.  Her soon to be ex apparently broke all the rest that came with it. I tried to reach Lumber Smith by email, telephone and by text, with no response, in fact the phone number always rings busy.

I'm guessing they're either out of business or going out of business.   Or perhaps they don't care?

Does anyone know the story, or at least have the spec on their blades?  I would hate to start test sawing and hit a nail or something and be out of business right away.  A bunch of logs that need to be sawed are piled up.  They will soon turn into dust like the log that I had for too long that I have struggled to saw on my Peterson.

This one is the Bantam, or the 21/26 depending on what you go by.  The band wheels and most of the other parts look pretty unexceptional, so I am hoping for local availability when necessary.

Thanks forum members for anything you can do to help.   And if Roundhouse has not yet bought a mill, I'll be able to give him a review.
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Re: HFE-21 vs LUMBER SMITH
« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2017, 04:00:41 pm »
Didn't get a response, so let me try adding something. Does anyone know whether or not 1.25 inch blades will work in that machine? It's specd for 1 1/8 inch blades, which no one seems to have.  Help help 🙃
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