Firewood on shares?

nastcat · March 25, 2014, 06:29:08 PM

This year my Brother-In-Law and I are finding that a lot of the ash in the swamp behind my house is already getting punky or rotting on the inside. A freind of mine's stepson hit some hard times and needed wood to heat his house, so I struck a deal with him to cut on thirds. He would get a third for cutting and processing, My BIL would get a third for cutting and processing. I would get a third for owning the wood and equipment. I thought this was pretty generous. I figured that I should really get half for owning the wood much less providing the equipment and fuel. I want to know if I am off base here or is he? He now thinks that he shouldn't have to cut 3 cord to get one cord. If that is the case who gives up their third.

Corley5 · March 25, 2014, 06:37:32 PM

Tell him to cut wood somewhere else

NWP · March 25, 2014, 06:40:32 PM

Quote from: Corley5 on March 25, 2014, 06:37:32 PM
Tell him to cut wood somewhere else

X2

Or pay him hourly and then make him buy the wood from you by the cord. I'd bet he'd think it was an ok deal then. ;)

thecfarm · March 25, 2014, 06:43:32 PM

If I was supplying the fuel and the equipment for a finish product I would want half.

nastcat · March 25, 2014, 06:45:31 PM

I definately am going to do that if he confronts me about it. He was talking to my BIL today. Just wanted to know I that arrangement sounded fair or in I was off base. NWP I would not pay him at all, he could just buy wood from me and my BIL or cut somewhere else. thecfarm that is what I thought also I was being nice, now kinda feeling dumped on.

thecfarm · March 25, 2014, 06:48:55 PM

I suppose they feel they are doing all the work and you are not doing any of the work. :

goose63 · March 25, 2014, 06:55:43 PM

Dose he like sleeping a warm house? you my friend are right on base here you are supplying every thing what more could he ask for

nastcat · March 25, 2014, 07:03:35 PM

thecfarm, My BIL thinks everthing is fine, it is just the other guy is starting to think it is not fair. The equipment they are using is my saws, my splitter, my dump trailer, my one ton dually, and the old iron mule.

thecfarm · March 25, 2014, 07:05:52 PM

OMG on the equipment in use.and one is complaining. :

Are you going to carry it in this winter for him to burn too? :

nastcat · March 25, 2014, 07:08:32 PM

I thought it was a pretty nice set up. For me it kinda makes getting the firewood fun. Would much rather be doing that than working in the foundry.

luvmexfood · March 25, 2014, 08:08:05 PM

Well you might offer to go over an fill his stove and woodbin everyday. :D

nastcat · March 25, 2014, 08:16:07 PM

Maybe I could just buy him propane so he doesn't have to load the stove at all, Ah Nope!

Southside · March 25, 2014, 09:42:03 PM

No good deed goes unpunished. Perhaps this "reaction" of his explains some of why he is falling on hard times. You could ask him if he plans to pay for any repairs should they he break something. You have given more than what is fair here.

OntarioAl · March 25, 2014, 10:05:27 PM

nastcat
You have been more than fair in fact more than you may realize. On this side of the border if he gets hurt you would be deemed his employer and liable for worker's compensation.
If I were you I would tell him to pound sand before this deal goes sour. He has nothing to lose unfortunately the same does not hold true for you.
My nickels worth.
Al

redprospector · March 25, 2014, 10:11:42 PM

Tell this clown to hit the road. Otherwise he will start complaining and running his mouth around town, and the next thing you know, instead of being a nice guy trying to help someone out with a very generous deal, you will have a damaged reputation and be known as someone who would take advantage of someone who is down and out.

Don't ask me how I know this. :D

BargeMonkey · March 25, 2014, 10:15:59 PM

Unfortunately it doesn't help to be the nice guy. Even 50-50 you where still extending yourself with providing the wood and all the equipment.

Hilltop366 · March 25, 2014, 10:28:02 PM

Tell him if he brings an axe, bow saw and wheelbarrow he can take home all he cuts.

lynde37avery · March 25, 2014, 11:34:37 PM

my brother either pays me $40 for his wood or he would cut a lot of wood for me for his pay. he cuts and brings it home to be split. i say it sounds fair to me.
if he gets a whole cord thats a couple hundred worth of heat. good deal to me.

windy hill farm · March 26, 2014, 06:04:15 AM

Oh and you don't supply the beer too, now you need to go buy a mill so you can mill this guy some lumber and build him a wood shed :D Some people just don't get it. But I'm sure the guy will be there to help with the next tax bill.

Woodboogah · March 26, 2014, 07:09:46 AM

You are being extremely generous and he obviously has no appreciation for you trying to help him in a tough spot. I would be weary, especially if he gets hurt using your stuff. Tell him to screw if he cant understand how generous you are being.

justallan1 · March 26, 2014, 07:52:29 AM

The way I'm reading this is 2 guys processing 3 cords = his efforts are getting 1.5 cords and he's taking one of them and leaving a half cord to you. Looks to me like he's all ready getting twice as much as you.

Allan

enigmaT120 · March 26, 2014, 12:24:11 PM

Quote from: justallan1 on March 26, 2014, 07:52:29 AM
The way I'm reading this is 2 guys processing 3 cords = his efforts are getting 1.5 cords and he's taking one of them and leaving a half cord to you. Looks to me like he's all ready getting twice as much as you.

Allan

That's what I thought, too. If BIL isn't helping him then BIL is getting a great deal.

rasman57 · March 26, 2014, 01:42:46 PM

I am wondering about the struck deal. Was that with your friend or face to face with the man? You sure are helping him out and he either does not get it or really is simple and self centered.

I would ask him if he is still happy with the deal and see what he says. He either tells you what you heard, tells you something different or maybe something new and you get to clear the air. Sometimes it is a perception problem and sometimes you just have a person that has fouled up every good thing that has come their way.

I would not rely on "he said" though. I would just ask him face to face. Perhaps you would be giving him some much needed guidance.... or letting him continue to be a bust out if that applies.

Weekend_Sawyer · March 26, 2014, 01:54:41 PM

Quote from: nastcat on March 25, 2014, 07:03:35 PM
thecfarm, My BIL thinks everthing is fine, it is just the other guy is starting to think it is not fair. The equipment they are using is my saws, my splitter, my dump trailer, my one ton dually, and the old iron mule.

sounds like a recipe for disaster. I don't lend out anything with an engine.

Alcranb · March 26, 2014, 02:37:54 PM

Quote from: rasman57 on March 26, 2014, 01:42:46 PM

I would ask him if he is still happy with the deal and see what he says. He either tells you what you heard, tells you something different or maybe something new and you get to clear the air. Sometimes it is a perception problem and sometimes you just have a person that has fouled up every good thing that has come their way.

I would not rely on "he said" though. I would just ask him face to face. Perhaps you would be giving him some much needed guidance.... or letting him continue to be a bust out if that applies.

If it's not in writing it doesn't exist! Believe you me I not only have the T shirt I've got the scars $$$ to prove it.