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« on: March 21, 2014, 01:31:28 am »
I was at a husky dealer today and he was talking about some prototype 572s that husky had sent him to try he said that they worked good and were less weight than a 372xt and would out cut them I was Wondering if anyone on here had tryed one of these prototypes yet and if they had how they liked them. He said that there was no word on how long before they would be able to be bought but I would definitely like to try one when they are available
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Re: 572xp
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2014, 07:30:28 am »
I have heard about them but haven't seen one yet. If they cut like the 562 XP's they will be awesome.

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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2014, 08:01:27 am »
Heard chatter about them at another forum. As with anything else in development, the final production versions may not be exactly like the ones in development.  :) Heard good stuff but wouldn't bet they weight any less if they end up in a similar configuration as the 550 & 562. It will be tough to beat that simple 372 design for power, simplicity and weight. My bet is they beat the power, match the weight or real close to it, but not the simplicity....time will tell!  I would speculate that like the 562 & 550, they will break new ground in the Strato & Electronic technology for production saws. Would expect subtle improvements in layout & serviceability even over the 562 & 550 as they have more time with the layout of this new generation of saws & incorporate the feedback from their dealers & customers. Just a guess...I certainly won't know until they actually go from rumor to reality!
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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2014, 10:59:44 am »
He's not supposed to be talking about them.  :)
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2014, 12:26:57 pm »
He's not supposed to be talking about them.  :)
Exactly.
Some of you might remember the Stihl MS201T prototype test saw exposure years back.
Stihl had a number of these units in the field and wasn't long until someone posted on several tree websites pics of them with weights shown on a scale, dissected for all to see long before they were even close to being introduced.
A few of them were even stolen. Probably explains the issues this saw has today with it's unpopular reception, also the competition got a little leg up in their own research and development of their comparable unit.
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2014, 01:04:27 pm »
Already bunch of talk elsewhere about it just Google it

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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2014, 03:22:14 pm »
Already bunch of talk elsewhere about it just Google it
Just a little talk that's all, anything else is a misprint in model #. Not even a photo.
Who ever is  field testing these saws are trustworthy....their lips are sealed ;)
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Re: 572xp
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2014, 03:25:12 pm »
Already bunch of talk elsewhere about it just Google it

Yeah, but that's not the point here. 

Dealers that are entrusted with prototypes are sworn to keep their mouths shut on details of these saws. And letting pics sneak out is guaranteed to prevent you from getting any more. I have a blast getting prototypes a year or two before they hit the market and I wouldn't jeopardize that by saying too much. A little tease now and then, well yeah I might do a little of that.  ;D
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Re: 572xp
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2014, 11:03:28 am »
Personally I like the guys that leak info out.   ;) ;D   Thanks..................for the latest update.  Heard a bunch last year from a couple other testers.  :-X

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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2014, 02:38:42 pm »
The only negative I have heard about the "572xp" is that it has an inboard clutch, like the 372xp etc, but unlike the 562xp etc - and not everyone will agree that is negative....
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Re: 572xp
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2014, 03:07:30 pm »
Depends on how you look at it .I like that arraingement for the ease and simplicity of changing a rim spocket .

Some prefer the outboard system as it places the drive mechanism closer to the crankcase and in theory would be less stressful on the crankshaft and bearing .They claim it cools the clutch drum better too which probabley has some merit to it .

Now I don't know of Husqvarna bearings are any more robust than Stihls' or not .I do know the later cost more .

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« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2014, 03:22:22 pm »
Depends on how you look at it .I like that arraingement for the ease and simplicity of changing a rim spocket .

Some prefer the outboard system as it places the drive mechanism closer to the crankcase and in theory would be less stressful on the crankshaft and bearing .They claim it cools the clutch drum better too which probabley has some merit to it .

Now I don't know of Husqvarna bearings are any more robust than Stihls' or not .I do know the later cost more .

The largest impact is on the handling of the saws, as the outboard puts the bar closer to the centre of gravity of the powerhead.
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Re: 572xp
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2014, 03:31:35 pm »
 :D Says the guy who always complains about the weight of a saw .

Now Miko I've cut with both systems and I don't see much difference myself in how they handle .

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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2014, 03:46:16 pm »
:D Says the guy who always complains about the weight of a saw .
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I'm not really complaining, just pointing out the facts.... :)
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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2014, 11:08:12 pm »
I wasn't surprised the 572XP would be a inboard clutch saw, seeing the biggest saw for limbing would be a 562XP which does have the good ergonomic handling outboard setup. But then I think about the 395XP and 3120XP with their outboard clutch ???
I guess those big saws need the cooling advantages of that clutch setup plus the better center of balance position for their long heavy b/c's.
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« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2014, 12:02:08 am »
I wasn't surprised the 572XP would be a inboard clutch saw, seeing the biggest saw for limbing would be a 562XP which does have the good ergonomic handling outboard setup. But then I think about the 395XP and 3120XP with their outboard clutch ???
I guess those big saws need the cooling advantages of that clutch setup plus the better center of balance position for their long heavy b/c's.
I'm not surpriced regarding the "572xp" either, but that doesn't mean I approve of the desision.  ;)

Regarding the 395 and the 3120, the outboard may just as well be a result of Husky not making any inboard clutch saws at the time of their basic design - but the result is like you said anyway.  :)
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Re: 572xp
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2014, 12:58:30 am »
Well when I started this thread I didn't know it was supposed to be so hush hush but that being said from what I heard I am excited for them to come out so I can try one
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« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2014, 01:29:24 pm »
Well when I started this thread I didn't know it was supposed to be so hush hush but that being said from what I heard I am excited for them to come out so I can try one

Dont worry about it. We have been talking about it on Chainsaw Repair Site since.  December 10, 2012   ;)

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« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2014, 10:58:26 pm »
I sorta thought the 576 replaced the 372 but the market has not really taken to that saw. Don't really know why as anyone who owns or has run them seems to have nice things to say about them..Silky smooth av, autotune, good power ect. I think Huskys problem there is that the 372 is so 'passionately' liked. Kinda like the ms201 and the ms200.

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« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2014, 10:17:04 am »
I assume the New saw is supposed to replace both the 372XP and the 576xp, but you never know with the 372 - it was supposed to be replaced already in 2005 - but the market just didn't accept that..... 8)
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« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2014, 11:01:23 am »
I assume the New saw is supposed to replace both the 372XP and the 576xp, but you never know with the 372 - it was supposed to be replaced already in 2005 - but the market just didn't accept that..... 8)
The 576XP is a odd duck , I had in my possession 3 of them in the Auto Tune setup starting about 5 yrs ago and they were a darn good saw.
But I think Husqvarna should have made them a 85-88cc saw to replace the 390XP.
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Re: 572xp
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2017, 05:14:19 am »
Hi! Long time since activity in this topic. What do you think, will the 572 be released next week?

Ref: https://www.forestry.com/editorial/equipments/husqvarna-572xp-august-2017/

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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2017, 10:24:18 pm »
Swelogg welcome to Forestry Forum!
Good post and you have some good undercover info there.
572XP looks like a oversized 562XP and should be much more robust.
Rumor says it won't make North American market for at least another year....same with the Stihl MS462C.
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« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2017, 01:36:35 pm »
Thanks Holmentree. I dont know when it reaches US.
I guess it was 572 that was released after all, according to instagram Husqy and

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« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2017, 10:38:59 am »
The 372xp has always been one of my all round favourite mid size saws. I bought one last tear at this time with a 562xp,I prefer the 372. Call me a skeptic but I am going to buy another 372xp this fall, hopefully by the time I need to replace them in a couple of years they will have all the bugs worked out.
I noticed the primer bulb on the new 372,does anyone else find this a pain in the butt to operate with gloves on?  also had a client look at my 562 and ask why I was not running pro line saws,his poulan had a primer bulb to so he assumed it was a cheap saw.

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« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2017, 09:57:22 pm »
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« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2017, 10:02:34 pm »
The 372xp has always been one of my all round favourite mid size saws. I bought one last tear at this time with a 562xp,I prefer the 372. Call me a skeptic but I am going to buy another 372xp this fall, hopefully by the time I need to replace them in a couple of years they will have all the bugs worked out.
I noticed the primer bulb on the new 372,does anyone else find this a pain in the butt to operate with gloves on?  also had a client look at my 562 and ask why I was not running pro line saws,his poulan had a primer bulb to so he assumed it was a cheap saw.

 I wish my 372xp had a primer bulb. It does fine without it but it usually always takes about 10-12 pulls to get it fired up if it has sat more than a week or so. I flooded it a few times trying to get it started before I figured out the trick.
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« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2017, 06:43:26 am »
My 372 is the same way Woodcutter_Mo
If it's sat awhile, it's a bear to get it running, 10+ pulls like you said. Once it's started, it's a one pull saw all day. Next day, 3 pulls cold.
I don't get why primer bulbs get knocked so much. Yeah they're on the cheapo saws, but why shouldn't they be on pro saws too? My Jonsered 2260 (similar to a 562xp) has a primer bulb, and that is hands down the easiest starting piece of 2 stroke equipment I have ever run. Hit the primer bulb a few times, choke it, pull till it coughs (one, sometimes two pulls) choke off, pull and she goes. Every time.
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« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2017, 08:21:52 am »
The 372xp has always been one of my all round favourite mid size saws. I bought one last tear at this time with a 562xp,I prefer the 372. Call me a skeptic but I am going to buy another 372xp this fall, hopefully by the time I need to replace them in a couple of years they will have all the bugs worked out.
I noticed the primer bulb on the new 372,does anyone else find this a pain in the butt to operate with gloves on?  also had a client look at my 562 and ask why I was not running pro line saws,his poulan had a primer bulb to so he assumed it was a cheap saw.

That is what i thought too! are they still in the 20th century??

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« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2017, 10:00:35 am »
My old edition 372XP has a weird trait, it always starts on the first pull while choked no matter how long it sits.
I'm thinking maybe the carb leaks a bit of fuel into the intake manifold and is always primed. Saw runs great otherwise.

I'm confused about the primer bulbs on my 550XP and 562XP too.
I understand they pump fuel through the carb and back into the tank so you can never over pump them.
I heard pumping the warmed up fuel out of the carb after shutting it down after long hard cuts,  helps cool the carb down for better restarts.
Nothing in the owners manual seems to give any information.

This new 572XP touts a new insulated top cover. What looks like a layer of white Styrofoam on the airbox partition wall. It's supposed to keep the carb cooler from cylinder heat.
I'm thinking Husqvarna should make upgraded covers available for the 550XP/ 562XP also.

The new 550XP my dealer gave me last week to replace the old troublesome one, even has hot start issues on its first tank of fuel. After warmed up good I had to set the fast idle to get it to start >:(

My new MS261C never had a hard start issue yet and it's worked up into the high 90s with lots of humidity.
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« Reply #30 on: August 21, 2017, 11:33:29 am »
 

 

Here's a pic from my 550XP owner's manual  on how to start the saw after warmed up.
Sure a lot of trouble to start these saws :D
I hope the new 572XP has elimated this step of setting the fast idle every time you need to start the saw.

The new MS261C doesn't even allow you to set the fast idle . Only on choke position when you need to start it from cold.
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« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2017, 07:34:43 pm »
572XP in forest

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« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2017, 10:01:58 pm »
572XP in forest


I'm surprised Husqvarna let this video out there with the 572XP being so new and all. That's a 20" bar cutting easy Spruce? Or is it Hemlock? Either way, some real easy sawing wood. Don't they make sure the chain is properly filed before they begin? Either that or the saw is over-rated at 4.3 kW. The first cut wasn't terrible but as soon as the cylinder got hot it lost power. 2nd cut could have been operator error but the third cut looked really weak. Humiliating.

My stock 20 year old 50cc Stihl 026 is rated at 2.6 kW. 4.3 kW is 1.7 kW more (or 65% more power). Yet it didn't seem but a bit more powerful in the cut. My 026 would have been at peak power on the second or third cut. I would venture they had it tuned too rich but it's Autotune!

That's no way to sell a new saw! Anyone else find this demo unimpressive? Maybe they forgot to break it in?

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« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2017, 10:31:31 am »
Here is a review of the 572