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DDobbs

Do you guys have tags/plates on your portable mills?

Thanks
Dave
EZ Boardwalk 40
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Joe Hillmann

Each state has it's own regulations when it comes to tags.  Some states(like IL) require tags on any trailer used on the roads, some states only require tags once the trailer gets to a certain weight or for commercial use.

POSTON WIDEHEAD

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board

just answard a ? I was going to ask ,I am from il. thanks.
paul

Chuck White

The states vary from one to another, New York for example does not require plates!
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Dave Shepard

Massachusetts requires plates on everything. That way they know if they've squeezed you for everything you've got without having to distract the nice police officer from pursuing other possible offenders. ;D
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GDinMaine

 
Quote from: Dave Shepard on March 14, 2014, 08:13:26 PM
Massachusetts requires plates on everything. That way they know if they've squeezed you for everything you've got without having to distract the nice police officer from pursuing other possible offenders. ;D

:D :D :D They do the same in Maine. I can only register the mill (Equipment plate) or camper for one year at the time.  Utility trailers can be registered two years out.
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drobertson

Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on March 14, 2014, 06:04:25 PM
Not required in S.C.
this one has killed me till this day here in Mo.  tags required here, never made sense, all states are different.
only have a few chain saws I'm not suppose to use, but will at times, one dog Dolly, pretty good dog, just not sure what for yet,  working on getting the gardening back in order, and kinda thinking on maybe a small bbq bizz,  thinking about it,

POSTON WIDEHEAD

Quote from: drobertson on March 14, 2014, 08:51:51 PM
Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on March 14, 2014, 06:04:25 PM
Not required in S.C.
this one has killed me till this day here in Mo.  tags required here, never made sense, all states are different.

$$$$$$$.......now does it make sense? :D
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Magicman

Also, in some states it is equipment rather then a trailer.


 
Now if you load a log up on it and travel, then it becomes a trailer because you are hauling.  I strapped this Cypress log on the sawmill and hauled it from the customer's home to the sawing location.

There are many situations that may be left up to the discretion of the law officer.   :-\
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JohnM

Need a plate here...........on my truck! ;) ;D

 

Quote from: GDinMaine on March 14, 2014, 08:18:12 PM
Utility trailers can be registered two years out.
GD, check with the town office but to the best of my knowledge you can get a 5yr plate.  Little more paperwork of course.

Edit:  PS I am sooooo looking forward those green trees again!!
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Red Good

If it's mine personally no plates needed in Ok as long as it is towed by my truck , but if it belongs to the shop it needs plates . Or so I have been told . Red
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DDobbs

I am getting a new EZ Boardwalk next week Monday

I think I am just going to haul it on my trailer.

And not get it's trailer kit.

Filing for a title can be a pain in IL.

Thanks

Dave
EZ Boardwalk 40
Ez Boradwalk Jr.sold 11/7/2015
Stihl 650 Stihl 290

Alcranb

Dave, don't forget once you register it you may see a yearly bill for excise tax or personal property tax. Somebody has to pay for the gas to keep 'em warm/cool on those third party details  ::)
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DDobbs

Our problem is we that live in IL. Have the 2 ex Governors that spend their day making
License plates. :D



Dave
EZ Boardwalk 40
Ez Boradwalk Jr.sold 11/7/2015
Stihl 650 Stihl 290

Ocklawahaboy

Quote from: DDobbs on March 16, 2014, 08:09:11 PM
Our problem is we that live in IL. Have the 2 ex Governors that spend their day making
License plates. :D



Dave

And we have some that should be.

dboyt

I've never had a plate on my mill, and been passed by highway patrol, local police, and county sheriffs.  So far, no one has paid any attention.  Maybe i don't look prosperous enough to squeeze.  I believe it is as MM described-- farm equipment, as long as you're not hauling anything on it (in Missouri).  You do need to make sure lights, safety chain, etc. are all OK.  I have heard of mills parting ways with the tow vehicle at highway speeds, and never want that to happen.

As far as I'm concerned towing the mill is THE single most hazardous part of portable sawmilling.  When you're running the mill, you can keep people back, but when towing, you pass within a couple of feet of every idiot out there, with a closing speed of over 100 mph.

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goose63

Here in North Dakota no plates until 15,000 lbs
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LittleJohn

I want to say in Minnesota, its the whole trailer vs implement arguement!

As long as you do not put a log on the mill, its an implement and plate is not required.  However if you do license as a trailer, its a once in a life time plate (I THINK).

Johnny Law, has not stopped me yet; so i either look innocent or I am legal  8) 8)

Bandmill Bandit

Farm/ Forestry equipment is supposed to be exempt in Alberta. I have a call in to Alberta transportation to check for sure. Will post what I find out here.

As long as you are not hauling any thing on the mill that is not mill related components, no plate or tags required. Any thing over 2000lbs  brakes required.
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rimshot






as long as the mill is permanantly attached or built in as  sawmill it is conidered special Mobile equipment and registration/ licensing is not required in Michigan. 
LT 10 with a 10 h.p. and a converted boat trailer to provide mobility for a once permanent mill.

SawyerBrown

When I went in to get the tags for mine, the lady behind the counter kept asking me, "A what?"  Portable sawmill.  "A what?"  Finally had to show her a picture ...

But, yes, we decided it is required in IL, based on weight (so a "B" classification).

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shelbycharger400

MN,   under 3000 lb. $40 lifetime sticker.  Over needs plate and yearly sticker. ,  lic same as reg trailer.   

Nomad

     In Florida if it has wheels it needs a tag.  A few years ago I registered a Norwood LM2000.  No VIN number.  It took 5 people, half a dozen calls to the state capital, and an hour and a half to get it done.  One girl kept asking me "Is it a stump grinder?  Are you SURE it isn't a stump grinder?" ::)  When it was finally done, the guy in charge asked me to PLEASE never come in there again without a VIN. :D
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luvmexfood

I would check and see if Ill. has a farm use exemption. Here in Va. you can put a farm use tag on a trailer and be good to go.

And it looks like our former governor and his wife may be doing some time. They just couldn't make it on a governers salery.

Also a lot depends on the local judge's take on the law. Some counties the police will not mess with anything farm related because the judge will always rule against them. Got to love the difference in what judges allow. Have seen two judges in one county each rule differently. County was divided between two judges. One would burn you up for something and the other would dismiss. As a former Police Officer we knew where the dividing line was that decided which court it went to and if it was worth writing a citation for depending on where they were.
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FarmingSawyer

Quote from: GDinMaine on March 14, 2014, 08:18:12 PM
:D :D :D They do the same in Maine. I can only register the mill (Equipment plate) or camper for one year at the time.  Utility trailers can be registered two years out.

Hmmm....don't tell the BMV I go to.....just got my equip plate for 2 years....!
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Solomon

I regestered my LM4 as a trailer here in Virginia, Motor Vehical said if you're pulling it, it's a trailer and if it weighs more than 3500 lbs it has to have two axles and brakes on at least one axle.
I upgraded my brakes to hydralic surge free backing brakes with a big Titan coupler.  It does have to be inspected every year but they issued me a permenent tag $142.00    never have to regester it again.   The mill weighs 7500 lbs,  I pull it with my Chevy 3500 Duramax.   It's easy to forget its behind me.  I don't even feel it back there most of the time.
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Quote from: GDinMaine on March 14, 2014, 08:18:12 PM
Quote from: Dave Shepard on March 14, 2014, 08:13:26 PM
Massachusetts requires plates on everything. That way they know if they've squeezed you for everything you've got without having to distract the nice police officer from pursuing other possible offenders. ;D

:D :D :D They do the same in Maine. I can only register the mill (Equipment plate) or camper for one year at the time.  Utility trailers can be registered two years out.

I get the same thing.  I know a lot of people that buy travel trailers and get them registered in New Hampshire because it's a flat rate fee and they don't get dinged for the excise tax our wonderful state charges.  My most favorite thing of all is paying excise tax on the MSRP on a window sticker rather than paying tax on the ACTUAL amount paid for the vehicle.
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Chuck White

I have a State of Maine plate on my utility trailer, it's good for 5 years then I'll order a new one.

They always expire on the last day of February.

When you're out on the road, look at the plate on tractor trailers, most of them around here have a Maine plate.

Don't need a plate or registration here on a portable sawmill.  8)
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With basic mechanical skills and the ability to read you can maintain a Woodmizer  LT40!

SAnVA

I live in VA and don't have a tag on my woodmizer, I have permanent tags on my 25ft. camping trailer , 10 ft. utility trailer, and 14ft. boat trailer. My permanent tags cost $50-60 dollars. I have to have my camping trailer inspected yearly but not my utility or boat trailer. And on a side note, My Wife and I were vacationing at Chincoteague VA last year and went over to Assateague  to the beach, there were probably 40 trucks and horse trailers parked there and trucks had VA license plates but horse trailers had Maine license plates also I see a lot of Maine plates on the semi trailers around here, I don't understand what the advantage is to having Maine plates on VA trailers, anybody have the answer???

beenthere

Seems IIRC the trend to Maine plates had something to do with their cost and ease of buying.
Someone will know for sure what the deal is.  ;)
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Chuck White

Maine plate, good for 5 years costs $75.00 per trailer!
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With basic mechanical skills and the ability to read you can maintain a Woodmizer  LT40!

FarmingSawyer

Quote from: Chuck White on October 10, 2014, 09:52:04 PM
Maine plate, good for 5 years costs $75.00 per trailer!

That's not such a good deal....I get a special equipment plate for my sawmill....$10 a year and you can get a 2 year tag..... I suppose if I admitted to having a heavier mill, it might cost $20/yr.
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Chuck White

Quote from: FarmingSawyer on October 12, 2014, 08:22:33 AM
Quote from: Chuck White on October 10, 2014, 09:52:04 PM
Maine plate, good for 5 years costs $75.00 per trailer!

That's not such a good deal....I get a special equipment plate for my sawmill....$10 a year and you can get a 2 year tag..... I suppose if I admitted to having a heavier mill, it might cost $20/yr.


Try moving out of Maine and getting that deal!   ;)

All I know is it saves ME money!  smiley_thumbsup
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With basic mechanical skills and the ability to read you can maintain a Woodmizer  LT40!

AnthonyW

New Hampshire requires a plate on everything that places a wheel or track on a public road. I mean everything, even log splitters that typically have a ball hitch and towed away from Lowe's need a plate. Sawmills are considered a construction equipment. Plate doesn't cost any more that usual, and the registration wasn't that expensive ($28 I think). I do know the camper trailer costs more.

I remember three of the definitions for towing things in NH. Campers are campers. Trailers are anything used to put anything else on. Purpose built equipment on wheels and pulled along are considered construction equipment.
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Nomad

     In Florida the price goes by the weight of the trailer.  Sawmills are heavy trailers... :'(
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golddredger

So after researching looks like California the mill will fall into special equipment excemption. No plates needed so long as it is the mill only. Same as a portable welder or log splitter or stump grinder. No plate. However I cannot come up with weather or not I should put lights on it or just a triangle refllector.
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Magicman

No plates are required here.


 
I have lights and I also added this rectangular sign with reflective stripes for my safety.


 
If you do this,it becomes a trailer and would need a license plate.  I did not get on the highway with this log, just hauled it from one sawing location to another.
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Ianab

QuoteNo plate. However I cannot come up with weather or not I should put lights on it

It's easier than cleaning up the mess when you get rear ended because the guy behind you didn't see your brake lights or indicators. It's also possible you will be towing home after dusk if it's been a long day?

Saying "it didn't need lights" doesn't help much when you are wrecked on the side of the road.
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