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Started by mmartone, January 30, 2014, 10:33:12 PM

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mmartone

Heres a pic of the top pieces for the last table in line on our current list. We ran these through the planer tonight and got them all the same thickness, sure smells good. We are going to try and epoxy coat the top of this table to keep it looking beautiful and the stains out of it.



 

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21incher

That is going to be a great looking table. When you epoxy coat the top surface do you have to do the bottom surface also to keep it from warping later on?
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Tom L

I had a strip built red cedar sneak box at one time, and I tried on a few occasions to fix the outside layer of the boat with west system epoxy.  I never had any success with the epoxy over red cedar, it would look great to start, and then after a few months the epoxy would delaminate from the red cedar. I was told that red cedar has certain properties that will not let epoxy bond to it with any success.

white cedar seems to be better, I coat cedar carvings with west system epoxy and have good results with it sticking and lasting.

would hate to see you cover the top of that table with epoxy and have this happen to you.

LeeB

The oils in ERC most likely cause the problems Tom mentioned. A coat of shellac followed by poly should do the trick and keep the stains out.
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mmartone

I have coinsidered that problem and to bond epoxy with teak, also oily wood. You wipe it acetone to get the oil off the top surface and then epoxy, we are a bit from being ready to get that far on it. We shall see...
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Quote from: thecfarm on January 31, 2014, 08:46:14 PM
POSTON,go get another bag and watch Warbird youtube on What not to do with your tractor,in general board.

:D :D :D :D :D :D I saw that.........I'll have BAD DREAMS!  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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mmartone

Got the table top joined, biscuited and glued tonight. We had a heck of a time getting the joints to meet evenly!



 
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mmartone

Made a mistake and made a new post, new pic from tonight...

Mistaken new topic merged with this one - Admin
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WDH

Those big planks are hard to handle, especially on a jointer. 
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mmartone

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SPIKER

Hummm  where the LIKE button!  lol.   sure looks good!   How do you plan to do the ends?>???   sure will be watching.

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scleigh

Would a sanding sealer help if applied before the epoxy?

I make benches with erc and have used tung oil and poly., but sometimes have a problem around knots - getting a good finish.

mmartone

Well after some advice epoxy probably wont be going on this table. Jack sanded a little on it with that palm sander, more is needed though!
As for the ends we really havent decided what shape they are going to be, oval, rounded corners or a slight curve with rounded corners. Suggestions?
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hardtailjohn

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LeeB

Round off the sharp edges and points and leave like they are to go along with the live edges.
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Dodgy Loner

Quote from: WDH on March 18, 2014, 07:16:20 AM
Those big planks are hard to handle, especially on a jointer.

I agree, much easier to take the jointer to the wood! :)



Looking good, mmartone!
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5quarter

Great project...If it were mine, I would breadboard the ends like a true tavern table. Acetone does destroy the surface oils. You should also seal with shellac before applying a top coat, Like LeeB mentioned. What are you going to do for a base?   
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mmartone

Breadboard with cedar, interesting idea. Live edge?
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LeeB

Live edge refers to the natural edge you left on the two outside edges, or in other words it living shape as opposed to a ripped edge.
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SwampDonkey

I like Dodgy's jointer/planer. ;D Better build up them shoulders and arms. ;)
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