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Offline boscojmb

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Log Master Sawmills
« on: January 17, 2014, 08:05:53 pm »
As many of you know Log Master Sawmills closed their doors and filed chapter 7 bankruptcy in December.
The owners, Herman and Edward Gibson are two of the most honest, responsible, and hard working people I have ever met. I have spent the past month wondering what happened to them and Log Master.  Bankruptcy didnít make sense. They ran a very organized, but basic factory. They had all of the equipment needed to build sawmills. All of their equipment was clean and well maintained, but I didnít see anything there that looked like it had a loan payment on it.
They had plenty of business. I had to wait 4+ months for my LM4. 
Despite being very energetic, Herman is well into his 70ís. I wondered if he took ill.
    Today (1/17) I received a letter in from Herman And Ed. They are doing well. Herman is going to continue to offer band blade sharpening and sell new blades. Both Herman and Ed provided their personal contact information and offered to continue to answer questions and provide technical support to Log Master owners.
     I am glad that I got to know Herman and Ed, and happy to be the owner of one of the last Log Master LM4ís ever built.
John B.

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Re: Log Master Sawmills
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2014, 08:40:00 pm »
Good to hear that John kinda restores your faith in folks. Many times people are clever , honest and hard working but not businessmen. I heard you bought a big mill I'll have to stop over and see it. How are you coming with your stake pointer.?? Frank C.
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Re: Log Master Sawmills
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2014, 09:20:28 pm »
times are hard for many folks, communication is a constant that cannot be dismissed.  Glad you are in contact with them, and wish the best for all the folks involved  with the whole  issue.    david
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Re: Log Master Sawmills
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2014, 11:19:52 pm »
I don't think member Yarnammurt holds the Gibson's in such high esteem as they took him for $8K.
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Re: Log Master Sawmills
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2014, 11:46:03 pm »
sooo......what happened? ??? ???
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Re: Log Master Sawmills
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2014, 11:55:19 pm »
sooo......what happened? ??? ???

Short version they had sold his existing mill, and taken a deposit on a new one, and then went broke, so he was caught up in the whole mess.

To Log Masters credit, they did get him a check for the sale of his mill before the receivers stepped in, so he did get a part refund. If they had been less scrupulous that money could have been lost as well.  But he was understandably a bit "miffed".

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Re: Log Master Sawmills
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2014, 10:25:15 am »
I don't think member Yarnammurt holds the Gibson's in such high esteem as they took him for $8K.
http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,71190.msg1069946.html#msg1069946


Log Master did not include any customers in their bankruptcy filing. As far as I can tell, this means they have refunded all customer deposits, or they still plan to.

I found a record of their bankruptcy filing here:
https://business-bankruptcies.com/cases/log-master-sawmills-inc

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Re: Log Master Sawmills
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2014, 11:06:10 am »
My neighbor just purchased a used Log master sawmill and as I can tell, most parts can be purchased off the shelf of an auto parts supply or found on Surplus Centers website.  Anything else could be modified or made at a local welding shop.

The mills are great mills and sometimes when a company goes out of business, its not their fault, as I have said before.  Some times a perfect storm gets the best of the companies out there.

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Re: Log Master Sawmills
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2014, 12:39:45 pm »
I have a buddy that lost his tail on a used car lot business, but he still went around and squared up with all of the parts stores and anyone else in town that he owed money. Hopefully Yarnamurt will get squared up with too, the sad fact may be they don't have any money.
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Re: Log Master Sawmills
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2014, 11:23:42 pm »
I am saddened to find out that Logmaster is no more.  I bought an lm4 last year and they have always been  available to answer any questions until today.   Their phone has been disconnected.  I would like to be able to stay in contact with the Gibsons.   I may need their knowledge if I have a problem.

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Re: Log Master Sawmills
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2014, 08:02:47 am »
I decided, last month, to take the plunge and buy an entry level mill.  I used to hog hunt a lot in the area around Lufkin/Nacogdoches TX and on one trip I stopped in there at Logmasters and had a look around.  So 7 years or so later, I am ready to buy one of their entry level mills only to find that they had JUST gone bankrupt.  I was disappointed as much because they were only three hours away as because of how impressed I was with their machines. The gentleman who showed me around (on my tour of their plant) suggested that the manual mill was often set up on a slight down slope to make the movement through the saw easier.  Does that sound right to you all?

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Re: Log Master Sawmills
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2014, 08:13:33 am »
Welcome to the Forestry Forum, Prologuy.   :)

Now would be a good time to gather a list of LogMaster owners and form a support group.  There are several here on the FF.

Speak up LogMaster owners.
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Re: Log Master Sawmills
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2014, 08:53:54 am »
Glad to hear that the previous owners of LogMaster are ok.  Holding the price of the mills while steel & fuel continue to rise has put the squeeze on just about all metal fabricators.

As far as milling downhill, I don't buy it.  You still have to pull the mill back at the end of the cut.  Plus you have the issue of the carriage rolling on its own while you are loading, turning, or offbearing.  Set it up level.
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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2014, 09:25:38 am »
Prologuy,welcome to the forum. Probably someone on here could help you. I have a Thomas,built here in Maine. I never seen a manual Logmaster,but I bet it's built as simple as mine is.
hogdogman,I have mine setup level. With mine if the wind is blowing real hard it will move the head. I lock mine in place when I don't use it.
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Re: Log Master Sawmills
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2014, 10:32:05 am »
Mr. Boyt:
I agree with you.  I set up the mill that way once, and if you consider it a pain in the neck then you have a much higher opinion of it than I do.  I think when they say sawing downhill that they mean doing it in such a way that gravity and the downhill slope helps you load the logs especially for manual mills.  Gerald

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Re: Log Master Sawmills
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2014, 02:32:52 pm »
I have an LM4.  Herman Delivered it to me in January of 2008.  It's been a great machine.  Saws nice straight lumber even with difficult species like pecan.
 I have to say that Herman and Ed Gibson have always been very fair and honest with me.  They have alway done everything they said they would do.   I would welcome the opportunity to do buisness with them again.
 They built a great mill.  I have had no real problems with mine, it just keeps cutting and cutting and cutting.    Pete  Conlogue   Chesapeake  Virginia
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Re: Log Master Sawmills
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2014, 04:22:39 pm »
I built my slabber,  I have my frame leveled out setup in a way that the "front" is slightly down from the "back" only bout a 1/4 in or so in 12 feet.  I have a clutch operated chain, but it is nice to know that it will and can roll back to the front  instead of rolling forward when im adjusting clamps, rolling logs, ect.

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Re: Log Master Sawmills
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2014, 07:50:00 pm »
I am saddened to find out that Logmaster is no more.  I bought an lm4 last year and they have always been  available to answer any questions until today.   Their phone has been disconnected.  I would like to be able to stay in contact with the Gibsons.   I may need their knowledge if I have a problem.

Herman and Ed sent me a letter with their contact information. I assume that they are sending them to all logmaster owners. If you still have one of Herman's business cards, one of the numbers is the one that he is still using. I don't want to post their personal information, but they are not hard to reach.
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Re: Log Master Sawmills
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2014, 03:00:58 pm »
Hi, we purchased a used LM5 (85 hp Cummin Diesel engine) with a manual few months ago.  We have some small issues with manual since it was designed for sawmill models LM 16-25j, LM2, and LM4.  The LM5 is slightly different from the manual. Anyone got copies or know where I could get maunal for LM5?  The issues we are having is the tensions for blade. The spring inside the tensioner (not sure if thats what it is called) was jammed and leaking when trying to put it at 6,000 psi.  The belt tension idler has wears on the edge causing blade to slip off. Where can we find replacements?  Your feedback/reply would be greatly appreciated.

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