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Started by Wick, January 14, 2014, 09:36:38 AM

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Wick

Ok Ya'll !! What ya think? I think it will be easy for you.
I'm holding my guess so I won't be wrong in front of the experts  :)







 



 



 

I think this one is different?



 
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Den-Den

I will make a guess of Sycamore.
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Dodgy Loner

My guess is beech for the first and sycamore for the last, but to be honest, it is impossible to say with certainty with all of that wood in the rough. If you planed it and cut cleanly cut the end grain, things would be much clearer.
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WDH

The spiral grain leads me to sycamore, too.
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Wick

I tried to get good pictures, but your right the end grain is rough and hard to see. I thought the checks and cracks would help with the ID based on drying characteristics.
Had not thought of sycamore, interesting. Never worked with sycamore.
So do you think the last picture is the same wood or different? It is a really orange color and the others seem to have a whiter base.
Also thought the bark in the first picture would help.
After looking again, could there be 3 species?
Thanks
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WDH

I think that it is all the same.  Sycamore.
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SwampDonkey

The first one looks like beech with the smooth gray bark there and it sure checks a lot like beech in the firewood pile. That's just going by bark as I can't see the grain to be sure. The rest is up in the air, can't see the grain. Beech , yellow birch and hard maple can be just as rippled grained as something with spiral. Split some and you'll soon find out.
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Dodgy Loner

That bark in the first pic is why I went with beech. A clean end-grain picture would settle it in a hurry beech and sycamore both have distinctive end grain.
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Wick

OK, will try to do some homework this weekend. Split some and clean the end grain.
Wish I would have set the particular ones aside, now there all stacked together.
Thanks for the help everyone.
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MIsawyer

im going with sycamore

Red Clay Hound

The last pic definitely looks like sycamore.  The others I'm not as sure about.
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OneWithWood

I am on the sycamore train.
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OH Boy

someone told me Sycamore does not check, and cookies don't split when they dry. Is that true? and if true, how is this Sycamore with the checking.

Not arguing with anyone's call cause I've no idea what this is. the Sycamore guesses brought up the question.

WDH

Take a pic of a quartersawn face where we can see the ray fleck.  The ray fleck in beech and sycamore is different. 
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CalebL

The second pic looks like sweet gum to me.  I've milled a bunch of it.
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Thehardway

The first pic looks like beech on account of the bark and the color is darker than the sycamore around here. Bark is not like gum at all.

Moving down, the pic with pieces all stacked beside each other, the one with the big knot and wavy check looks like some gum I have cut.

Beech will split easily, Gum will not.

I might also guess maybe maple in there with the smooth gray bark, the heartwood color and with the spalting style.  I'm no expert.  How heavy and hard is it?  Does it have a lot of tannin and stain your hands black?  Beech will.  Sycamore, gum and maple won't.

Are you sure it is all the same kind of wood?
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WDH

I still think beech or sycamore. 
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Wick

I actually took some pictures of one like in the first picture. It may actually be the one, I saved it. The others have been turned to ashes already. Anyway I have pictures with a smooth face to see if end grain could be identified. I will try to post them today. Thanks.

BTW, I forgot about splitting it.  >:(
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thecfarm

That little bit of bark on the first picture looks like beech. Beech is a hard wood to split. It's a real stringy wood. Does not open up clean.
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Wick

It is real heavy. Seems dense too. I will try to split a piece this weekend.
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Wick

Here are the pics wth a cleaner face.








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WDH

I think that we have to chalk up another one for Dodgy.  Looks like beech from the last pics  :)  ;D.
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SwampDonkey

Yip, beech is beech.  ;D
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hacknchop

I also think the first pc is beech look for characteristic flecks much like hrd mpl and yellow birch as for sicamore only ever milled it once 20 yrs ago but the beech does grow on some of the islands in lake huron so I have milled some.
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Dodgy Loner

Quote from: WDH on March 31, 2014, 11:46:23 PM
I think that we have to chalk up another one for Dodgy.  Looks like beech from the last pics  :)  ;D.

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