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Started by n.w.log.cutr, January 09, 2014, 08:32:14 AM

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gologit

Quote from: redprospector on January 11, 2014, 11:30:50 PM
Don't see much of the real world at all on AxMen.  :D

Very true Andy.  Might be time to start another "Things that you don't see on AxMen" thread.
Semi-retired...life is good.

redprospector

I forgot about that one. Might be time.
1996 Timber King B-20 with 14' extension, Morgan Mini Scragg Mill, Fastline Band Scragg Mill (project), 1973 JD 440-b skidder, 2008 Bobcat T-320 with buckets, grapple, auger, Tushogg mulching head, etc., 2006 Fecon FTX-90L with Bull Hog 74SS head, 1994 Vermeer 1250 BC Chipper. A bunch of chainsaws.

saxon0364

Quote from: kderby on January 09, 2014, 11:56:49 PM

Nothing against the Easterners, Southerners, Middlers, Texans or Yoopers (like the Boss) :new_year:.  Just fun to see some Westies now and again.

No offense taken.    What we call logging here in PA is a completely different ball game from what the west coast guys are doing.   I'd love to go out and spend a few months working on a yarder crew just to see it done.   
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Branch

During the oil embargo of the 1970s I was in charge of a forestry project to reduce the use of fossil fuel in the harvesting of timber in the Northeast. I worked with a Scottish engineering company to design,build and import a Yarder. The project lasted eight years and demonstrated that yarders could dramatically reduce the use of oil if not entirely and in some configurations produce energy. I would like to share my knowledge before it is lost.

Riwaka

The new T-Mar Log Champs burn half the diesel of previous equivalent size machines in similar work settings. Electronically controlled engines and transmissions.
https://youtu.be/aKloAC1obxo

nativewolf

Quote from: Branch on October 19, 2017, 09:15:21 AM
During the oil embargo of the 1970s I was in charge of a forestry project to reduce the use of fossil fuel in the harvesting of timber in the Northeast. I worked with a Scottish engineering company to design,build and import a Yarder. The project lasted eight years and demonstrated that yarders could dramatically reduce the use of oil if not entirely and in some configurations produce energy. I would like to share my knowledge before it is lost.

This the place to share.  Welcome to FF, lots of folks are interested in small yarders.
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mike_belben

Share away.  Were interested.
Praise The Lord

Puffergas

Yes, please share. I am also interested in small scale yarding.
Jeff
Somewhere 20 miles south of Lake Erie.

GEHL 5624 skid steer, Trojan 114, Timberjack 225D, D&L SB1020 mill, Steiger Bearcat II

Ed_K

 I also. I often wondered why we don't use yarding systems here in the northeast.
Ed K

Riwaka

If the contents of this article is true it would provide some idea why cable yarders would not be favored by loggers in Maine at least.
Insecure land tenure leads to insecure logging contracts. Mill/ log processing closures mean longer more expensive hauls to remaining mills. etc
http://mainefocus.bangordailynews.com/2016/12/a-rift-in-the-woods/#.WepMJGiCyCo

Vermont cable logger from 1982
https://youtu.be/tNR98QQUABI

snowstorm

I read that story when it was in the paper some time ago. I have been to oxebow a couple times. The map I looked at is a few yrs old. It showed a population of 69 in oxebow plantation 0 in oxebow township. In far northern maine there are only a few cable skidders still working. The big land owners want mechanical  crews.then there is the weather. -40 can be common  and 200 inches or more of snow. Not really a lot of steep ground either. In western me there is some steep ground

Riwaka

Appears to be 120 listings on the PLC website. Any yarder crews?
http://maineloggers.com/plc-members/

Seem to have been supplied with a bit of equipment for training purposes.
http://maineloggers.com/mechanized-logging-operations-training-program-begins-june-19/

mike_belben

There is a lot of good hardwood in some steep hollars here in tennessee/kentucky, but you just wont see that type of equipment available. 
Praise The Lord

quilbilly

If you have a good job lined up go for it. I'm from the PNW and some people here have failed some have made it. Out of the ones who have made it a steady supply of average to good jobs was the main factor, not the cost of equipment. If you've already been around a yarder side then you're familiar with how big of a crew you need and where the important positions are. One thing you might look at is a small yarder doing thinning. Seems to be a big thing up here, the jobs can be had for a low bid and you have a small crew, also not a ton of competition.
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Riwaka

Are the trees left in the 'steep hollars' for soil protection reasons?

Puffergas

Jeff
Somewhere 20 miles south of Lake Erie.

GEHL 5624 skid steer, Trojan 114, Timberjack 225D, D&L SB1020 mill, Steiger Bearcat II

mike_belben

I think it has to do with who is cutting.  Half our loggers are full time farmers who log in winter with 3PH winches.   They probably arent capable .   and theyre also a large segment of the land owners.  No sense clearing a patch you cant hay or till.
Praise The Lord

dgdrls

Koller   http://www.kollerna.com/?cat=2&cat1=21

or

Wyssens  https://www.wyssenseilbahnen.com/en/wyssen-cable-crane/

Both look like dandy machines however I have no experience  :(

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teakwood

 ;D ;D Wyssen! my last name is Wyssen. we are distant relatives. there are not many wyssen's in the whole world. all came from the same region in Switzerland which is called wallis.

the cable systems they made are high quality!!
National Stihl Timbersports Champion Costa Rica 2018

Branch

I dug out the information I have.
I found the two projects sponsored by the Vermont Department Of Parks and Recreation. Vermont cable yarder project. One is not dated and mostly describes machines and configurations.The other is CABLE HARVESTING SYSTEMS FOR SMALL TIMBER  by:E.Gerry Hawks, 1979.
I worked with Hawks system.  Primitive but it showed how efficient yarders were when configured to be so.
I feel that west coast yarding is like tuna fishing and east  New England yarding is like fly fishing with 12,000 ft of line.



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