Bull Pine, any takers?

[drobertson]

I am meaning to ask if anyone knows what it is, or has sawed any, it could be a local slang, in either case, half frozen is a chore for sure, lots of reaction in it, even the straight ones, very uneven growth rates within each individual log, not for the faint of heart, unless waves are requested.    david

[pineywoods]

Around here, what we call bull pine is actually loblolly, but grown in an open field or pasture so it doesn't self prune. LOTs of taper, lots of large limbs, lots of pitch. Any lumber will be at least 50% knots. Best use I have for it is fuel for the burn pile.

[celliott]

Around here, it simply means a large, gnarly pine tree (white pine typically, or sometimes spruce\fir for the misinformed)
Typically open grown in a field, lots of branches, might have diseases, burls, etc., just not a well formed tree.
This is the Northeast, Vermont.
Pineywoods, I see it pretty much means the same thing in the south, just different species.

[beenthere]

I've heard the term used, but am thinking it is local for a large pine tree that is old and been around awhile. Much like a wolf tree. 
Google indicates related to Loblolly and also to Ponderosa pine.

What is your experience with what you are sawing?  Species be loblolly?

[Jeff]

Would this one qualify?

[pineywoods]

Would this one qualify?

Oh yeah, I have a few like that. Have sawed a few. When I do, it goes for blocking..

[thecfarm]

I burned alot of pine like that in my OWB.  ;D I kept it going all one year with pine like that.

[drobertson]

Man Jeff, not even close, and glad of it, I think, this stuff came off a cut job where the previous logs were an older growth, very predictive and enjoyable to saw with consistency.   However, this stuff  has reaction in it as well as heavy pitch, with very uneven growth rings.  The lumber is for cabins mostly 1x's for siding, but the remainder is 2x's for whatever, and however,   bottom line, it's kicking my rear.  The builder suggested it as Bull pine, a fast growth SYP that was planted for regeneration in the area.  He also commented on how difficult it is to work with the shop equipment as well,  I still am thinking half froze logs with pitch, and reaction,  which is a recipe for hot wings and a warm fire,   thanks guys,   david , and the lift won't start again,  love it all through the winter,,  you boys up north, hats off to you, 

[beenthere]

Would this one qualify?

Maybe the one in the orange pants...   ;D ;D

[drobertson]

Would this one qualify?

Maybe the one in the orange pants...   ;D ;D

:D :D :D better you than me to say it!   I would hate to limb that one, did that sound right?  david

[LaneC]

I had over 3000 loblolly trees planted for me back in the winter before Katrina (2005) I think. They were loblolly and they have nowhere near the limbs that that picture had.  I have never seen a pine like that. I have seen alot with alot of limbs but that tree! I would hate to limb that sucker. I can see why no one would want to mess with that. I am in Mississippi but I would cringe if I had to cut and limb that tree.

[Ron Wenrich]

I heard pitch pine called bull pine.  But, there isn't much pitch pine in the area anymore.  I cut a couple, and you found out why they called it pitch pine. 

[Sawdust Lover]

I have taken down a few old tobacco barns here in Virginia and I have been told by a few people that it was bull pine. I have sawn a lot of heart pine and the pine out of the tobacco barns is different. It has a redish tint like heart pine but the growth rings aren't as close together. So I really don't know what kind of pine it is but it sure is pretty and it sells.

[POSTON WIDEHEAD]

I've never heard of BULL PINE. We have VIRGINIA PINE that is knotty and limby and we give it "off brand" names. :

[Dave Shepard]

Around here a bull pine would be a big, often multi-leadered, nasty non-merchantable white pine.

[RynSmith]

Would this one qualify?

Funny, I'm pretty sure we called that type Climbing Pine, tar and all.   

[5quarter]

Bull pine's a new one for me, but wolf pine are those trees that look real clean from 50' away. up close you can see that they're full of knots just under the surface where they have been pruned. a wolf in sheeps clothing I guess.  ;)

[Rockn H]

I'm not far from pineywoods, so of course what we call a bull pine is the same.  A loblolly that didn't self prune for what ever reason.  The only thing I've seen that it's good for is rustic cabinets.  Not a lot of construction lumber for sure.   If you leave it laying long enough for the sap wood to rot off there's a lot of lighter pine.

[highleadtimber16]

Some of the spruces and occasional fir around here grow like that. Very corse grain, knotty, and heavy taper. I can't imagine sawing them or even cutting them into firewood. I personally wouldn't go near anything like that. I like my logs straight and clean!

[Peter Drouin]

A Wood Mizer 1 1/4x55x7 with the set out to 30thousand would cut that easy ;D

[Jeff]

Would this one qualify?

Funny, I'm pretty sure we called that type Climbing Pine, tar and all.   

Everytime I've waled by it since we closed on the property, I feel like I should climb it. I probably will this spring.

[LeeB]

Falling from a tree doesn't hurt, but the stop is a killer.

[kderby]

Bull Pine in the West (Oregon) is the large diameter/ large limb pine, out in the open...with a bull standing under it.  Refer to the earlier picture with Orange pants. :D  In Oregon, usually, the bull is a bovine.

It is a growth characteristic and not a species.  On the other end, we insult small diameter timber by calling it "pecker-poles."

Both peckerpoles and bull pine have utility.  Neither is a way to make any money.

[pine]

Out west the ponderosa pine (Pinus Ponderosa) is often referred to as Bull pine.
In the SE, lobloolly pine (Pinus taeda) is often referred to as Bull pine.
Maybe it is a colloquial name used for a pine that changes depending upon where one is located or is from.

[mesquite buckeye]

I'm thinking fancy fireplace mantels. ;D

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