2165/2172

[PaYoungBuck]

I run all 2186/2188s and have been thinking about getting a smaller saw for back up or cutting smaller timber. I had a 2171 a few years ago for a couple week and someone decided they needed it more then me. My question is what are everyone's thoughts on these saw. I found a used 2165 for $300 thought about getting it to try. Or should I just put the money toward the new 2172. I almost always run 24" bars. Maybe just get another 2188. Almost all hardwood logs here to cut. Thanks

[weimedog]

Your area must be similar to mine...I cut in CNY. All hardwood. No replacement for displacement. With a 24in bar I would skip the 2165. If you were running an 18 even a 20, that 2165 would be more than enough. I ran a 20inch on a Husqvarna 365 for a while..until I ran my bigger iron I was happy. Hard maple, ash, oak, beach is what I mostly cut here. Have a 18inch on a 2172 and a 20" to 24" on a few old "Hobby Project" Jred 920's that block the bigger wood. Have a Sugihara 28in bar on a Solo 603 100cc monster. My main felling saw is a Husqvarna 365/371 hybrid (371 top end on 365 plastic) that just works. Have a 20in Sugihara bar on it. Works well for most of what I do. My 365 now wears a 18in Sugihara when it works.

[ehp]

if your running the new saws the 2166 and 2172 share the same cylinder and piston , the 2166 has the transfer doors 3/4's of there opening blocked off so just grind that part blocking the port off and you have a 2172 and they will run a 24 inch bar but I would not go any bigger

[PaYoungBuck]

No the one I'm looking at tonight is the older 2165. Found it for sale used but in great shape

[ehp]

yes I read that but was saying if you were buying a new saw the 2166 can be bought for less money than the 2172 and it does not take much time to grind the 2 doors to make it the 2172 , some places I have been told they want $200 more for the 2172 over the 2166

[PaYoungBuck]

Ok sorry I'm with you now. Yes at the least the 2166 is $100 less. I picked up the 2165 tonight it's a 08 but looks like new fired right up and cut great. It came with a 20inch bar and chain on it and also a like new 32 inch with a like new semi skip chain. It'll just be a back up saw but the 32 bar may come in Han on one of my bigger saws from time to time. No clue what the package is worth but I figured the big bar and chain was worth $100 by itself and the saw?? Maybe $300-350??? Anyone's thoughts?

[celliott]

You know, you can upgrade the 2165 and put a 2171(372xp) top end on it. Just a thought for future reference   :P
Baileys has a 20" oregon powermatch B+C combo for $78, and a powermatch 32" B+C combo for $110, but has other 32" bars, no chain, for $150+ (All to fit your Jonsered).

[ehp]

And I have ran some 2165's that ran very close to the 372's , the closed port cylinder ran better than the open port cylinder , I would run the saw and see how it cuts , it might be all you need

[barbender]

if your running the new saws the 2166 and 2172 share the same cylinder and piston , the 2166 has the transfer doors 3/4's of there opening blocked off so just grind that part blocking the port off and you have a 2172 and they will run a 24 inch bar but I would not go any bigger

So, are the 2166 and 2172 the same displacement now?

[celliott]

if your running the new saws the 2166 and 2172 share the same cylinder and piston , the 2166 has the transfer doors 3/4's of there opening blocked off so just grind that part blocking the port off and you have a 2172 and they will run a 24 inch bar but I would not go any bigger

So, are the 2166 and 2172 the same displacement now?

Yup. 

http://www.jonsered.com/us/chainsaws/compare-chainsaws/

Both 70.7 cc's, but 2172 rated at 5.6hp, 2166 rated at 4.8hp