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Started by dablack, September 16, 2013, 09:05:15 AM

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dablack

I really appreciate everyone's help.  To give a little background, I built a 26x52 1.5 story that burned down right before we moved in.  I didn't have the electrical done so the house wasn't grounded yet and then lightning hit.  It burned to the slab.  That first house I built completely by myself except for pouring the slab.  The first floor was all 2x6 and the second floor was attic trusses giving me a 19' wide room upstairs.  It was a 12:12 pitch roof (NEVER AGAIN).  My new plan is another 1.5 story but with balloon framing to give a little 2' pony wall upstairs and then a 8:12 pitch roof.  Lots of good space.  Anyway, there was no insurance on the first house so we are pretty poor right now.  I'm just trying to figure out options to dig us out of this fat hole.  The whole point of building my own house was to be financially free.  Now we are deeper than we have ever been. 

80 hours sounds pretty good.  Even if that is plus or minus 20%.  I can see it taking 10 to 12 weekends.  I'm looking at all options right now.  I'm not afraid of work at all (especially while it is cool outside....HA!), but my other problem is that I have 30 acres but no covered area to stack the lumber coming off the mill.  After I clear away the burned house, I will have a slab to stack the lumber on but it won't be covered.  I'm not sure what I'm going to do right now. 

thanks
Austin
Building my own house in East TX

WH_Conley

Try to find some tin, if the thieves will leave it alone, and just build some portable roofs that you can place on top of the stack.
Bill

WH_Conley

Ouch. That hurts. I just looked on the maps. Looks like you are about 950 miles from me. That pretty well rules out a road trip. If closer I could see where a mini FF get together could possibly happen. Just want to let you know you have our moral support if nothing else.
Bill

PC-Urban-Sawyer

+1 on the portable roofs for drying stacks.

Good luck and BE CAREFUL!

Herb

Magicman

Are your trees/logs on the ground?

Do you have a cut list?

What is your time frame for building?
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pineywoods

+1 on the portable roofs. I use them on all my lumber stacks. Made out of junk 6X6 and roofing tin scrounged from unused chicken house. The 6X6 provide needed weight. Pics in my gallery.
When trying to get a handle on the time needed for your project, don't overlook the time required for material handling. When you finish the project, I'll bet you will find that actual sawing is less than half the time spent. Moving logs, dealing with slabs and edgings, stackin lumber etc eats up lots of time.
Just keep on keepin on, don't get discouraged. ;)
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Magicman

Austin,  Is the house that burned the one pictured in this thread?  LINK
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dablack

Yes, thats the place.  I made a quick cut list but a detailed one is just a couple of hours away.  I'm using engineered I joist for the 26' span so the rest is all 2x6s, 2x4s, 1x for sheathing, subfloor, decking and trim, and 2x10s for the rafters.  That is about it. 

No the trees aren't on the ground but they are out in the open and easy to fell.  I do have a couple down from where I cleared them for the house site. 

I had a mobile home moved onto the property so we could live there.  We couldn't afford the rent where we were staying anymore.  The little note on the trailer is way less than rent.  Plus the kids love being on the property.  So do the wife and I.  It is will also be much easier to rebuild while living there.  For the first house I was driving 45 minutes each way to work on it.  We got a ford RV to park next to the house so I would have some AC and somewhere to get cleaned up before coming home.  The kids liked "camping" there on the weekends too.  It was a total loss as well.  You can also see we lost most of the trees within 40 ft of the house. 





We WILL rebuild.  Luckily, my folks are saying they would like to buy the mobile home from us and live on the property with us once we rebuild.  That will be a good thing.  I won't have to worry about selling the mobile home and I will be able to keep a good eye on them and lend a hand when they need it. 

As for a time frame, I just need to clear the slab of debris and then I can start.  I'm hoping to get it in the dry by tax return if I can get the money together to do that.  Then the tax return will get me going on finishing it out. 

thanks
Austin
Building my own house in East TX

thecfarm

Model 6020-20hp Manual Thomas bandsaw,TC40A 4wd 40 hp New Holland tractor, 450 Norse Winch, Heatmor 400 OWB,YCC 1978-79

Magicman

Austin,  If we can work out a suitable time/schedule, I will come and saw your logs for you.  I am quite sure that we can get enough donations to cover my sawing/travel expenses.  No profit, no pay, just expenses.  My Son Marty would come with me and bring the camper, so we would have our own lodging arrangements.
Knothole Sawmill, LLC     '98 Wood-Mizer LT40SuperHydraulic   WM Million BF Club Member   WM Pro Sawyer Network

It's Weird being the Same Age as Old People

Never allow your "need" to make money to exceed your "desire" to provide quality service.....The Magicman

thecfarm

Magicman and family helping out,priceless.  ;D
Model 6020-20hp Manual Thomas bandsaw,TC40A 4wd 40 hp New Holland tractor, 450 Norse Winch, Heatmor 400 OWB,YCC 1978-79

dablack

WOW!  MM that would be a true blessing.  I'm sure we can figure something out.  Let me get the cut list together and then you can tell me how many trees I'm going to need.  All my trees are about the same age so I will go get some measurements to send to you along with the material list.  I just checked the map and you are "only" 350 miles from me.  We have power (30 amp RV plug and 15amp outdoor plug), water, and septic up at the top of the hill where the house was so you should be in pretty good shape up there.  Plus my wife makes some DanG good grits....

Let me get some info together and get back to you. 

many thanks
Austin
Building my own house in East TX

Brucer

It's been a slow year and money is tight, but  my business will be able to kick in something to offset MM's expenses.
Bruce    LT40HDG28 bandsaw
"Complex problems have simple, easy to understand wrong answers."

orion388

Quote from: Magicman on September 17, 2013, 08:33:44 PM
Austin,  If we can work out a suitable time/schedule, I will come and saw your logs for you.  I am quite sure that we can get enough donations to cover my sawing/travel expenses.  No profit, no pay, just expenses.  My Son Marty would come with me and bring the camper, so we would have our own lodging arrangements.

WOW... I'm moved! MM if this happens, I'm not rich but I would be love to send you a small donation to help on expenses. PM me when this happens and I will gladly cut you a check.

John
LT35HD, Kubota L4330, Stihl 361, 026, Massey Fersuson 55, Ventrac, Grasshopper, Small dumptruck and a huge yearning for knowledge from this forum.

wwsjr

Lynn,
Sounds like a plan. Watching for further development.

Retired US Army, Full Time Sawyer since 2001. 2013 LT40HD Super with 25HP 3 Phase, Command Control with Accuset2. ED26 WM Edger, Ford 3930 w/FEL, Prentice Log Loader. Stihl 311, 170 & Logrite Canthooks. WM Million BF Club Member.

pineywoods

I'm watching this thread with great interest. Have some ideas we can discuss while grilling chickin...
1995 Wood Mizer LT 40, Liquid cooled kawasaki,homebuilt hydraulics. Homebuilt solar dry kiln.  Woodmaster 718 planner, Kubota M4700 with homemade forks and winch, stihl  028, 029, Ms390
100k bd ft club.Charter member of The Grumpy old Men

thecfarm

I can donate some green backs,I'm not a rich man,but can help out a little.
Model 6020-20hp Manual Thomas bandsaw,TC40A 4wd 40 hp New Holland tractor, 450 Norse Winch, Heatmor 400 OWB,YCC 1978-79

WH_Conley

Last time I counted a bunch of little's made a lot.
Bill

thecfarm

pineywoods,AKA,Gumpy Old Men,would be a great help to ya Magicman. We should help him out too.   ;D  Nails,roofing is not cheap.

Gumpy Old Men thread,
https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php/topic,43806.0.html
Model 6020-20hp Manual Thomas bandsaw,TC40A 4wd 40 hp New Holland tractor, 450 Norse Winch, Heatmor 400 OWB,YCC 1978-79

Magicman

The new "Goodwill Roadtrip/Sawing" thread LINK will detail our efforts to assist our Forestry Forum member "dablack".   :)
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It's Weird being the Same Age as Old People

Never allow your "need" to make money to exceed your "desire" to provide quality service.....The Magicman

Chuck White

You're a good man Lynn!

A very generous offer to help!

I'm sure I can help you a little!

God bless you!
~Chuck~  Cooks Cat Claw sharpener and single tooth setter.  2018 Chevy Silverado and 2021 Subaru Ascent.
With basic mechanical skills and the ability to read you can maintain a Woodmizer  LT40!

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