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My simple homemade bandsaw mill

Started by mrector, July 06, 2013, 07:52:47 AM

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mrector

This is a few pictures of my bandmill I made for grand total of $960. Uses 7hp h.f. motor
For power. I have a 10hp briggs that will replace it over the winter. Uses 18.75" pulley sheaves for wheels and 5/8" v belts for tires. 1-1/4 " 304 stainless band wheel drive shafts.
It is totally portable with removable 2000lb axle, 4 bolts-10minutes. Centrifugal clutch for drive and a repurposed honda civic idler pulley for belt tension. Setworks(haha) is a machined inch increment aluminum bar I machined and a movable bracket with copper wire as a pointer. Head lifting is a series of 5 ball bearing pulleys I made with a 40-1 worm gear winch, lifting/lowering is done with my dewalt cordless impact. Frame/track is 4x4x3/8" angle iron. Pretty heavy duty.. I also angled my cut angle (like the boardwalks are)
. Gaurds are in process of being made by me. Blade tension is done by a simple threaded rod pushing against the movable side to "where it stops fluttering under load".
Enjoy, Mikey














Woodmizer LT35HD25 brand new!
Stihl 044 and my favorite: ms260 pro
Homemade logging arch
Homemade hitch log picker-upper
DanG Deadheader log loading trailer.

mrector

Here is a YouTube video. Also check out my other videos, some interesting/funny stuff especially the splitting the red oak...
Mikey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKP2fJOpBas&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Woodmizer LT35HD25 brand new!
Stihl 044 and my favorite: ms260 pro
Homemade logging arch
Homemade hitch log picker-upper
DanG Deadheader log loading trailer.

thecfarm

By the looks of the fourth picture,it does a mighty fine job.
Model 6020-20hp Manual Thomas bandsaw,TC40A 4wd 40 hp New Holland tractor, 450 Norse Winch, Heatmor 400 OWB,YCC 1978-79

justallan1

I'd say pretty much the same thing as my Hudson, but larger and a third of the price. Great job.

Allan

drobertson

Looks good! nice finish on the boards, any guards in the future?  david
only have a few chain saws I'm not suppose to use, but will at times, one dog Dolly, pretty good dog, just not sure what for yet,  working on getting the gardening back in order, and kinda thinking on maybe a small bbq bizz,  thinking about it,

barbender

  Looks great, get your guards finished ;)
Too many irons in the fire

jueston

its always interesting when you get used to seeing this big expensive machines to see a simple one, it reminds you how simple a bandmill really can be.

it looks like it gets the job done... great work 8)

Hilltop366


fishpharmer

Mikey, good job on the mill and lumber.  Keep on tinkering with the mill until you get it exactly how you want it.
Built my own band mill with the help of Forestry Forum. 
Lucas 618 with 50" slabber
WoodmizerLT-40 Super Hydraulic
Deere 5065E mfwd w/553 loader

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mad murdock

Great job on the mill. Let the chips fly 8)
Turbosawmill M6 (now M8) Warrior Ultra liteweight, Granberg Alaskan III, lots of saws-gas powered and human powered :D

francismilker

Good looking mill!  Welcome to the FF.  Try to get some safety guards on pretty quick if you can.  A broken band can fling further than any rock you've ever seen when it comes flying off.  Better to have it wrapped up in a guard than around your neck!
"whatsoever thy hands finds to do; do it with thy might" Ecc. 9:10

WM LT-10supergo, MF-271 w/FEL, Honda 500 Foreman, Husq 550, Stihl 026, and lots of baling wire!

Happycamper

Great job on the mill and lots of satisfaction doing it I'm sure.
Necessity being the mother of invention has saved you several thousands of dollars. Congratulations.
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Hilltop366

Seems like you have the power vs blade speed figured out well, some home built mills on youtube that have quite a bit more power than yours don't seem to cut any faster.

(I do know that there can be a lot of variables)

Chuck White

You've got a very functional mill there Mikey!

Great job!
~Chuck~  Cooks Cat Claw sharpener and single tooth setter.  2018 Chevy Silverado and 2021 Subaru Ascent.
With basic mechanical skills and the ability to read you can maintain a Woodmizer  LT40!

WmFritz

Nice mill Mikey  smiley_thumbsup    Any plans on adding blade guides?
~Bill

2012 Homebuilt Bandmill
1959 Detroit built Ferguson TO35

mrector

Quote from: WmFritz on July 06, 2013, 11:45:49 PM
Nice mill Mikey  smiley_thumbsup    Any plans on adding blade guides?

Thanks! There is already blade guides installed. I made them from 2 ball bearings each
one on top of blade and one behind. Cant beleieve i forgot to take a pic of those...haha.
Woodmizer LT35HD25 brand new!
Stihl 044 and my favorite: ms260 pro
Homemade logging arch
Homemade hitch log picker-upper
DanG Deadheader log loading trailer.

lowpolyjoe


The Herbman

I am down at the bottom of the hill from you at Lowgap.  Am in the process of building me a mill and maybe I should come look at your's.

mrector

Quote from: The Herbman on July 07, 2013, 11:32:28 AM
I am down at the bottom of the hill from you at Lowgap.  Am in the process of building me a mill and maybe I should come look at your's.
Come on up anytime. I can at least show you what NOT to do. Haha

Woodmizer LT35HD25 brand new!
Stihl 044 and my favorite: ms260 pro
Homemade logging arch
Homemade hitch log picker-upper
DanG Deadheader log loading trailer.

customsawyer

Great looking mill. Do you have plans to add any kind of a blade lube system?
Two LT70s, Nyle L200 kiln, 4 head Pinheiro planer, 30" double surface Cantek planer, Lucas dedicated slabber, Slabmizer, and enough rolling stock and chainsaws to keep it all running.
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mrector

Quote from: customsawyer on July 07, 2013, 02:37:08 PM
Great looking mill. Do you have plans to add any kind of a blade lube system?

I have that as well. Its the oil jug hanging from up top, has a inline valve for adjusting flow
... kinda crude hut it was cheap and effective. I just run water, but thinking bout adding cascade like magic man suggests in other posts.
Woodmizer LT35HD25 brand new!
Stihl 044 and my favorite: ms260 pro
Homemade logging arch
Homemade hitch log picker-upper
DanG Deadheader log loading trailer.

bandmiller2

Good job Mikey.When you build your guards I'd make the pieces in front of the wheels out of plywood.Its just a matter of time before you catch the back of the band giging back and pull it off the wheels.The wood will stop the band quick unharmed. Frank C.
A man armed with common sense is packing a big piece

thecfarm

I have a gravity lube with 2 shut offs. One to adjust the flow and one to turn off and on. This way when i get the flow just right,I don't have to touch it again.
Model 6020-20hp Manual Thomas bandsaw,TC40A 4wd 40 hp New Holland tractor, 450 Norse Winch, Heatmor 400 OWB,YCC 1978-79

Magicman

Hello mrector, and Welcome to the Forestry Forum.   :)

It looks like you are well on the way to making a very usable sawmill for producing personal lumber.   smiley_thumbsup
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valley ranch

Nice job, looked at your video, runs real smooth.

mlieb

Just Ran across your Mill.Very nice! can you explain how you did your tracking and blade tension ?

Komatsu_Mech1

I too also just came across this thread, I am in the beginning stages of designing a home made mill and was thinking of using the same set up for the band wheels and was wondering how well the belts floating on the pulley worked and if the single groove pulley was ample enough to hold the blade on?? nice looking rig.

Thanks

kelLOGg

I just saw this, too.  Nice job,  Mikey. I like the pillow block support - no overhung load. How do you adjust tracking? How wide does it cut?
Bob
Cook's MP-32, 20HP, 20' (modified w/ power feed, up/down, loader/turner)
DH kiln, CatClaw setter and sharpener, tandem trailer, log arch, tractor, thumb tacks

mrector

I have sold this mill about a year and half ago. But I will answer any questions you guys have. I adjusted tension with a threaded rod on the opposed side of the engine. The pillow blocks I mounted on a plate with two 1" round rods that acted as sliding guides for adjustment. The drive side is hinged with a bolt as the locking device to keep track. I used a simple go kart clutch and 7hp chinese honda knock off engine. Worked fairly well. The belts in the pulley grooves are just exactly like the way my Norwood and woodmizer are. I had 36" in between guides. Had no where near the stability or power to cut that wide tho haha.
Mikey
Woodmizer LT35HD25 brand new!
Stihl 044 and my favorite: ms260 pro
Homemade logging arch
Homemade hitch log picker-upper
DanG Deadheader log loading trailer.

mrector

Just looked at the view count on this thread I made and WOW, 14000+ views! I really hope this thread has helped some guys along thier way. Kind of somewhat a success story in the making.. as I now own a full hydraulic woodmizer and have many sustained customers.  I saw roughly about 2-3k feet of walnut, cherry and erc per month and sell most of it before blade hits the log! I could bot have done all this without the help and knowledge of great guys here at the FF!
Thanks
Mikey
And ps, I am getting larger as I now have a 60x60 shed and drying shed and a forklift now. Wow 2.5 years and this is all coming together!
Woodmizer LT35HD25 brand new!
Stihl 044 and my favorite: ms260 pro
Homemade logging arch
Homemade hitch log picker-upper
DanG Deadheader log loading trailer.

steveh2112

hi, sorry this is an old thread but i'm interested in this design and also wonder about the V belts used as tires which seem to be barely hanging on. is this OK? looks like it is working but wouldn't it be better to find a V belt that fits snuggly into the 18.75" pulley sheaves? thx

Rybot

If you look at the commercial units that us v belts as tires you will see the same thing. the belt is held tightly in place by the blade on one side of the wheel and is a little loose on the inside because I can't imagine trying to stretch a perfect fit belt over a pulley.

Also, I am glad you revived this thread. I am in the process of designing my own bandmill and it is always helpful to see other peoples designs. 

Quote from: mrector on January 06, 2015, 01:45:24 PM
Just looked at the view count on this thread I made and WOW, 14000+ views! I really hope this thread has helped some guys along thier way. Kind of somewhat a success story in the making.. as I now own a full hydraulic woodmizer and have many sustained customers.  I saw roughly about 2-3k feet of walnut, cherry and erc per month and sell most of it before blade hits the log! I could bot have done all this without the help and knowledge of great guys here at the FF!
Thanks
Mikey
And ps, I am getting larger as I now have a 60x60 shed and drying shed and a forklift now. Wow 2.5 years and this is all coming together!


Congrats on the success. That is amazing.

steveh2112

ok, thanks, so a 18.75" OD pulley wheel like this https://www.surpluscenter.com/Power-Transmission/Pulleys/Finished-Bore-Pulleys/18-75-OD-1-1-4-Bore-1-Groove-Pulley-1-BK190-H.axd would have a 58.9" circumference. I'd be inclined to go with a sung fitting belt like this
58" B V-Belt Type B55 5L580 Classic Bestorq | Bestorq | Brands | Surplus Center

would you go bigger?

also, i read that blade speed should be between 5000 and 5500 ft/min, with a 18.75" wheel (18.4" datum diameter) that's 57.8" or 4.82 ft per revolution. so i calculate i'd need 1037rpm on the main wheel.

i have a kohler 6.5HP motor from my wood chipper RH265 | RH Series | KOHLER i plan to repurpose to save $$$$, its rated at 3600rpm, so that makes a 3.47:1 reduction ratio on the pulley. anyone care to double check my math please?

i was thinking 132" blade like this Wood-Mizer Online Store - Blades
that would give about 3' between the wheels

not sure about blade guides, i did see this Standard roller guide retrofit system by Cooks Saw
price is a bit high but i guess its pro level where you need it.

what you all think?

FYI, i found this very interesting about the wheels https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMWVqczpbBA

i wonder if the V belts flopping around like the OPs machine causes vibration in the blade?

Jem08080

Looks great! Do you have the plans/specs available for purchase?

Thank you.

John

fluidpowerpro

There are a number of people selling sawmill plans on ebay. 
Change is hard....
Especially when a jar full of it falls off the top shelf and hits your head!

Iwawoodwork

The 58" V  belt you will probably not be able to stretch it over the 18,75 pulley, I ended up with 60 inch 5/8 fully cloth wrapped v belts. 

welderskelter

I just have car tires on mine but was wondering about using a v belt pulley then cut the v belt so as to be able to just lay it in the groove. Then buy a set of tires they call them to fit over the pulley and belt. The tires I am talking about are like rubberbands that fit on these upright bandsaws for your shop. Maybe I think to much.

Iwawoodwork

If your saw blade is staying on the tires as they are and you are not having a problem with tires taking the set out of the teeth then my suggestion is leave it like it is, "if it isn't broke why fix it".

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