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Started by Lee Trie, June 25, 2013, 12:01:33 AM

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Lee Trie

Well this is my new project.  I thought it was an American from the nameplate.  Turns out the feed works and the setworks are Frick.  The carrage is ?  The frame is metal all 11'x44' of it.   It came with a live deck,  3 blade edger,  671, and misc little stuff.  I have it moved and have started to remodel it.  It was set up as a portable mill with axles under it but I had it moved on a flatbbed after I got it ready.  Lots of dissambly with alot of thought of how I wanted it when I reset it up. 
Lee

fishpharmer

Welcome to FF Lee Trie! 8) 
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pri0ritize

Another person from Poulsbo! Small world. Welcome to the forum! If you ever need a hand let me know!
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Lee Trie

Pictures I think

  

 
Lee

thecfarm

Lee Trie,welcome to the forum. I see you said "sawing again" I guess you had a mill before? What's the plan for this one?
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ddcuning

Welcome to the FF Lee, I love the old circle mills and look forward to future pictures of your progress. Guys here on the forum have helped a lot with my mill set up.

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sandhills

Welcome to the forum Lee, this will be another fun one to watch, with that 671 I hope you got ear plugs  ;).  Have 2 of them on irrigation wells 3/4 of a mile from the farm, they'll run forever but not hard to tell when a pivot safeties out  :D.

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Welcome to the Forestry Forum, Lee.  Looks like you have a  "B A D"  log dog.   ;D
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drobertson

Definitely looks like a project,  surely you will end up on top of this one,   david
only have a few chain saws I'm not suppose to use, but will at times, one dog Dolly, pretty good dog, just not sure what for yet,  working on getting the gardening back in order, and kinda thinking on maybe a small bbq bizz,  thinking about it,

redbeard

Welcome Lee , your going to have a nice production mill when you get it set up.
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Lee Trie

Thanks for the wellcome's....  I started shoveling sawdust from under my dads old American mill, went form there to green chain and eventually ran it some.  I bought my first mill 25 years ago and never set it up (sold it about a month ago to help fund this one).  I had an 1977 vintage mobile deminsion for a few years but did not like the belt carriage drive on it and wanted to upgrade to hydrostatic (sold it awhile back).   I also had traded for (about 15 years ago) a large steel framed mill made by Zimmerman Iron works of Tacoma Wa.  It had some good ideas but was so far out of shape I did not think I could ever get it straight again.  (in the process of dismanteling it right now).

I plan on using this for personal use and the ocasional outside job for others.  It should help for extra income when I retire (in 7 years)

The dog has been with me for 11 or so years and has gon to lots of race tracks, sand dunes, construction job sites,  helped me skid logs out of woods and has been my best friend for along time.  He does not get around as well now but is still happy.

I think I got the picture thing figured out and will try to keep adding more to catch up to where the sawmill is now.

 
Lee

customsawyer

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Lee Trie

I had to break down the sawmill to a manageable size. Remove roofing and lower it 32".  I had to take the carriage of to get the package under 11' wide.  M

  ore pictures.

  

  

  

  

  

  

 
Lee

beenthere

That is quite a haul. Looks like you have the equipment to make it happen and the knowledge to pull it off too.  8)
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Lee Trie

 Showes start of blocking.  I used old dock lumber. should be good for 20 years.

  

  

  

  

  

  

 
I guess that you could call it a daylight basement the way I am setting this up.
I think I installed enough blocking to brace the sawmill both ways.
Lee

Lee Trie

mostly level

 
Under husk, support both ways typical.

 
More blocking.

 
All blocking spiked together with rebar.
Lee

Lee Trie

Ready for backfill

 
Backfill complete on topside.   

 
there should be enough blocking to provide stability both directions.  The mill was within 1/4 " level but will get leveled in as the project continues.  I expect some settling but it should stabilize.  I am shooting for 1/16" tolerance when mill in operation.
Lee

beenthere

You are getting a lot of work done quickly.

Is the framework overhead structural, or for shelter?  Does it raise up as is looks like one would have to work bent over when under it ? I re-read and see that it is the roof and you lowered the frame.

What is keeping the mill stable in the direction the carriage travels? With a big log moving back and forth, seems the blocking is not set to counter that momentum. Maybe it is there and I don't see it. 

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Lee Trie

I think that I can get up to date with the pictures today.  I actually bought the sawmill 3 months ago.  Spent 4 days spread over 2 months to get it ready to go.  It was about 2 1/2 hours from my house.  It made for long days.  I got it home to my house on the 4th of June.  The plan now is to get it cutting wood and then next summer rebuild the husk, carriage, track, sandblast and paint.  Alot of what I have removed has been wore out or I just wanted something different.  The way it was set up the edger and the sawdust drag ran full time when the arbor turned.  You also needed at least one other person to run the green chain and edger.  I am putting an electric motor on the sawdust drag. (learned from my dad, so I can clean out the mill when the blade is not turning) I am also going to move the edger over and back.  It will run off of a different power.  This way I can cut some logs,  then edge them.   I have some thought as to how I will make this work.  We will see.   Ok enough words now for some pictures.

  The live deck just sitting about where it will go.

  The detroit is still on the mill. The roof is still down the live deck is jsut sitting.

  Detroit is out and the roof is going up.

  The roof is up held by straps, jacks, etc.

  This is about how the detroit will sit.  I will add concrete under it.  I will hace the concrete drain to an oil water seperator.  I do not want to put any oil on the ground and we all know how detroits like to give the oil back.

  I had removed the old wood before I moved the mill.  I had some grating laying around and installed it if a few spots.  I think this will work well.

  This showes the husk. American wood with Frick feed works.  Set up as a left hand mill.  The carriage is still not on.

  This is how they powered the live deck.  The deck use to sit lower and the sprockets on the mill itself powered seperate chains that brought the logs up to the mill.

  The log deck before I removed what was not necessary.

  Overall view of the live deck and the log deck.

  I had to move the logs as they were in my way.  Might as well put them on the live deck.  Nothing like some motivation to get up and sawing.

  Removed the drive for the live deck.  Not sure if I am going to install it again lower or convert it to hydrolic. 
Lee

drobertson

Mercy sakes alive! you have it going on, and not much else to say, cant' wait to see that rascal run,  david
only have a few chain saws I'm not suppose to use, but will at times, one dog Dolly, pretty good dog, just not sure what for yet,  working on getting the gardening back in order, and kinda thinking on maybe a small bbq bizz,  thinking about it,

Lee Trie

Just more pictures.

  The belts are on.  The extra belts on the back of the motor were for running the edger.  I will just leave them there for now.   When I rebuild the husk next year I will switch to a banded belt (like on the Journey) as I like that.  The extrs belts will come off at that time.

  The sawdust chain.  It was set up as a conveyor and I like that.  The power was from the arbor and I am switching that to electric, wich will be mounted at the top.  By conveying it I hope that I can keep the area under the sawmill cleaner and to be able to keep the sawdust types sepeerate.

  This is the end that they use to drive it from.  I will use that framwork as it is stable.

  Similar to last but from different angle.

  Carriage is on.

  Frick setworks with some parts removed to free up and clean up.

  Shaft cleaned and freed up ready to put back together.

  Back tigether.

  I had removed the air dog (might install it again later) and installed this hand dog from my extra sawmill parts pile.

  Setworks back together different angle. 

  Looking over husk at detroit.  Extra stuff scattered on ground.  It always looks like a bonb went off with it laying there.  The extra stuff has been a life saver. 

I ran out of pictures,  time to go back and work on the mill........
Lee

customsawyer

Keep up the great work and keep us informed. I like stories like these.
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SPD748

Holy smokes man... take a breath :)  I'm all about getting things done but you've taken it to another level! Great progress so far!

That clockwise rotation 6 is a rare bird. Straight 30 or 40 weight oil will be your friend.

-lee
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Lee Trie

(Lee) Good catch on rotation.  To me it looks like the goodies were swaped end for end. It was nice getting the mill setup mostly complete even if some of it was wore out.  Thanks on oil weight, I was wondering.  I never heard it run so I will keep my fingers crossed.  I am just trying to get it operational right now. Later after I get changes made (already have a long list) I will paint it.  From what I can gather the mill was put together this way 40-50 years ago.  It should last another 40-50 years. 

I found some more pictures.

   The flat track is bolted down.  It had sawdust, rust etc. under it.  I think it had 3/8" humps.   I removed it cleaned everything off to bare metal and painted the mill  there.

  Just another picture.  Notice the track laying next to it.

  From the end looking through the sawmill.  I am planing on moving the edger off the mill next.

  I was able to reuse the flat track. I turned it over and it layed down flat.  The camera put a bend in the track, Honest.  I will rework all this next summer.  I used safty yellow here because i thought it is one place everyone should be aware of.  I could imaging someone helping putting their foot up on the track.  Most of the mill will be dark green. 
Lee

kelLOGg

Quote from: SPD748 on June 30, 2013, 08:50:34 PM
Holy smokes man... take a breath :)  I'm all about getting things done but you've taken it to another level! Great progress so far!

x10
Bob
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