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Started by mrcaptainbob, April 07, 2013, 11:10:46 PM

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mrcaptainbob

Had an interesting experience with my MS310 today. Put a new bar and new chain on Saturday and did some cutting. It started running 'strange' as if there was no oil to the chain by the end of the day. It was quite tight. Today I put another chain (used) on it and it spun by hand just fine. Tightened it the normal manner. Start the engine and that chain snugged right up! Even the engine rpm's changed! The bar looks fine. All straight, no kinks. I had the engine running at idle and backed the adjusting screw and that engine started picking up rpm's! It runs fine with a slack-at-install chain. So....do you suppose the crank bearing is shot? Would that cause it to tighten up?

ladylake

 
Make sure the drive spocket bar and chain all mastch up.  Either 3/8 or .325. .  Steve
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Al_Smith

New chain ,old spur or rim sprocket can cause some odd behavior .Old stretched chain ,new drive system usually no problems .

DigDug

Check the clutch drum bearing.

clww

I'd be taking a look at that sprocket.
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mrcaptainbob

Yeah, the sprocket does appear worn. I put that one on a few years ago. One of those that the chain rides on rather than the gear type. This looseness is dramatic. I suspect that bearing on the drum, too. Raining the next few days, so I'll have plenty of opportunity to study the problem. Thanks for the help.

joe_indi

Try rocking the clutch drum on the shaft.If it rocks too much, this could be the cause of the problem. When you tension the chain the clutch drum is pulled forward, but is at an angle on the crankshaft. The clutch digs into the drum in the front but runs with a wide gap at the rear.

Joe

mrcaptainbob

I checked that, joe_indi, and you were right. That cup was WAY to wobbabbly! I also noticed I was using less bar oil than normal. I'll be getting a new oil pump spring arm tomorrow along with that bearing. I'd like to know what causes that spring arm to wear out as often as it does. This is the third one. Dunno. Maybe they have a life to them. The saw gets lots of use and is a several year old MS310. Oh well. New parts tomorrow will make for a new saw.

mrcaptainbob

YIKES! What a difference new parts make!!! The new clutch cup, bearing and driver made a world of difference. I especially like the new robust design, too. A thicker, larger bearing, and thicker driver. Impressed. A new oil pump driver, too. I think the old one lost the end because the clutch cup was wallowing around so much that it wore the wire end off.
Thanks so much for the help and guidance.....

clww

That's a great post. I'm happy your saw is back up and running properly. 8)
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