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Started by Dan_Shade, February 15, 2013, 08:19:06 AM

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Dan_Shade

I'd like to do a solid wood back in a book case that I'm building.

How do you guys normally do this?
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isawlogs

 Dan,
I did a solide wood back for a bookshelf I did for my son. I used tongue and groove pine panelling, cheap ( key word here for me ) and looks good to boot.
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pigman

Dan, solid wood would be nice, but some stained thin plywood hidden by a bunch a books would be a lot easier. If you use solid wood, Marcel's idea would be best. You could use the same wood as the rest of the case. You could also use frame and panel construction, but that would be a lot of work for the back of a case that is not seen unless the bookcase was not against a wall.
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Axe Handle Hound

Similar to what isawlogs said, I like to use shopmade shiplap in 4 to 6 inch widths.  Looks really nice when you get done.   

 

Tree Feller

T&G, shiplap, frame and panel...all three options suggested are good as all three will accommodate movement of the back panel.
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Dan_Shade

I was thinking of using 3/8 thick shiplap
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thecfarm

Axe handle Hound,that looks good.

Dan,I was thinking I would like to see a picture of the book shelf when done,please??
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Ianab

Quote from: Dan_Shade on February 15, 2013, 02:54:59 PM
I was thinking of using 3/8 thick shiplap

That would work, but I tend to just make mine from 4x1s, planed and jointed you get 3/4". Well working in metric it's sawn 100 x 25, then machined to 90 x 19. Makes for a very solid back that add a lot of structural strength to the unit. If can be fixed solidly to the back of the unit and support the shelves. No need to worry about cross-grain wood movement because the shiplap or T&G allows for it. The Shiplap profile is easier to make on a router table

I use solid wood as it's also cheaper for me. I can saw that myself for minimal cost, where I would need to buy expensive imported hardwood ply, that wouldn't match the woods I'm using anyway.

Ian
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Planman1954

A simple lap joint works well, and can be done simply on a table saw from thin stock. Be sure to stain the lap before assembly to avoid the bare wood showing with wood movement! This holds true for T&G joinery also.
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Dan_Shade

what is the standard thickness for the backs that you guys use?
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terrifictimbersllc

For solid wood, I'd stick to around 3/4 for a bookcase. Maybe to 9/16 if you have one or more fixed shelves you can nail the boards to.
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isawlogs

 Well I did not need the strenght on the back, so I bought some 5/16 TG waine scotting and used that. SYP at its bestess.  ;D :D :D
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drobertson

My first thought was some t&g car siding, axe handles looks good! and the 5/16 t&g is a good idea as well,
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WDH

I have used 3/8" shiplap to back a cabinet with glass doors, and it worked well and keeps the weight down. 
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hackberry jake

Wouldn't it be stronger if the boards ran at a 45 degree angle?
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Ianab

Quote from: hackberry jake on February 16, 2013, 01:50:22 AM
Wouldn't it be stronger if the boards ran at a 45 degree angle?

Yeah, but at some point you have to say it's a book case, not a house foundation  :D

Ian
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SwampDonkey

Then there is the fella that comes along and uses hardboard with birch veneer bonded to it. Make grooves on the back edge of the sides for the hardboard to slide up the back, done. ;) Cuts down on the heft and no worries about the back moving.
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isawlogs


Maybe that guy has more money and time then the most of us.   ;D :D
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   Marcel

SwampDonkey

I don't know if that would stand up to scrutiny. :D
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Axe Handle Hound

Quote from: WDH on February 15, 2013, 11:21:15 PM
I have used 3/8" shiplap to back a cabinet with glass doors, and it worked well and keeps the weight down.

Thanks for the compliments everyone!  I don't remember exactly how thick the back is on the cabinet I made, but I don't believe it's any more than 5/16" at most and I'd agree with WDH that 3/8" is more than adequate. 

WDH

Dan,

This cherry hutch that I posted about earlier this summer has a 3/8" shiplapped back.



 
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bama20a

Was that the same hutch you built for Danny & Lorraine ? That was some kind of nice work,
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WDH

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