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Slabbing in the snow... Elm??

Started by JSwigga, February 09, 2013, 05:05:21 PM

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JSwigga

I put this log in the mill the other day, and I knew it was supposed to snow like crazy last night.  Luckly we only got about an inch.  So I took a couple slabs off the top to see what she looks like.  This is Elm right?  I'm a little confused about the different types of elm.  Any info on elm would be nice.  Hope everyone caught in the snow storm is safe!


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Careful if you climb :) on that log it might be slippery elm!
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 :o :o :o Yep, a nice slab of elm! What a table that would make ;)

fishpharmer

Beautiful!

Kinda looks like some Chinese Elm that pigman showed me.  Haven't milled elm (yet).
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JSwigga

Yea I hear about slippery, english, american , chinese.  Not sure how to tell them apart.  :'(
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mesquite buckeye

Looks a bit red for american elm, although the log looks pretty typical for shape and size.....
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Tree Feller

I'd call that Beautiful Elm. Nice wood.   :)
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i've only sawn two elm species but that does look like american elm to me.  the other i've sawn was red elm and it was definitely more red than that.  also i'm not sure if red elm gets that large?
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Yes it does.  It gets really big, especially in the bottomland.
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 I have sawed a few elm logs and all where a pain to dry flat and straight. It really needs to dry slowllllllllllly. I have some airplane ready propellers here from one log that looked quite nice before being sawed up and stickered to dry.....  :-\
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Having sawn my fair share of elm, I would venture a guess, that it is Siberian Elm. Chinese Elm is not as common and widespread as many believe.
An odor when you cut it is indicitive of a fungal infection, that many Elms get.
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I sawed a couple of Cedar Elm logs last week.  The lumber was really red so I guess that is where the name came from??
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sigidi

For down here it doesnt look like chinese elm - our chinese elm is almost pure white - as for anythign else on elms I can't comment only sliced up chinese down here.
it sure is purdy tho ;)
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mesquite buckeye

Quote from: sigidi on February 10, 2013, 02:48:37 PM
For down here it doesnt look like chinese elm - our chinese elm is almost pure white - as for anythign else on elms I can't comment only sliced up chinese down here.
it sure is purdy tho ;)

Throughout much of the US Siberian elm is commonly misidentified as Chinese elm, which is a very different species. The only place I've seen real Chinese elms growing is as ornamentals in the SW US. The bark is almost like sycamore......
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millwright

I've sawn some American elm, and it didn't look quite as red as what you have there.

5quarter

That is definitely siberian elm...Makes great lumber if you can find straight logs. The bark is right, but the real tell is the alternating bands of color in the heartwood. Red elm has much more sapwood with the heart being a little pinkish. Ditto what others have said about chinese elm...its an ornamental that doesn't bear much resemblance to other Elms. I'll be real interested in how those slabs dry. Make sure you cut thick enough to resaw once they are dried. nice job.
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two-legged-sawmill

Looks like American Elm to me. Have sawed considerable amount of it, for lumber and firewood. The Dutch Elm Disease got most of them beautifull trees! The ones growing today don't seem to be able to reach their stately size!  When I was a Kid we used elm in the Horse Barn floor and my Dad said that It always smell like horse urine when first sawed??
     I have a nice Elm in my yard, The leaves look like the American Elm, but two tree experts can't agree on the label. One says Slippery Elm the other says Rock Elm! When I can figure how I will post a picture, not a record tree yet but it is still growing.
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JSwigga

Here's a better picture of one of the slabs maybe that will help.
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5quarter

two-legged-sawmill...American elm has a very distinctive silouette. long, upturned branches, a full, well balanced crown and tends to self prune nicely. American elm doesn't have color bands in the heartwood that I can tell. also, the crotch profiles on American elm tend to be U shaped, whereas in siberian elm they tend to be more V shaped and have included bark like in the pic. But who knows? The real tell would be the leaves and fruit. Siberian elm has very tiny leaves (<1") and purple berries in the fall.
Wow...just saw the new pic! very nice slab. definitely SE.
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SwampDonkey

Don't mind me if I let you take all the elm you want.  About the only elm that behaved itself as far as I can tell is paneling. Boards, well....   ::)

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