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Started by bama20a, January 01, 2013, 06:42:19 PM

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bama20a

On a Stihl chainsaw how can you tell if it's a pro saw or not? By the model number or what? Mark,,,,
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ladylake

 Right now Pro models are  201t, 261, 362, 441, 461, 880? and maybe a 201 rear handle.   Steve
Timberking B20  18000  hours +  Case75xt grapple + forks+8" snow bucket + dirt bucket   770 Oliver   Lots(too many) of chainsaws, Like the Echo saws and the Stihl and Husky     W5  Case loader   1  trailers  Wright sharpener     Suffolk  setter Volvo MCT125c skid loader

tyb525

Model numbers ending in an odd number. With the new numbering method, it would be the 2nd number.

Used to be models like 029,031, 039, etc. Now it is reversed. MS 250, MS 290, MS390, etc.
LT10G10, Stihl 038 Magnum, many woodworking tools. Currently a farm service applicator, trying to find time to saw!

bama20a

Quote from: tyb525 on January 01, 2013, 07:30:04 PM
Model numbers ending in an odd number. With the new numbering method, it would be the 2nd number.

Used to be models like 029,031, 039, etc. Now it is reversed. MS 250, MS 290, MS390, etc.
I must be missing something. The middle numbers on the ones Steve listed is even numbers say_what
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JohnG28

Quote from: ladylake on January 01, 2013, 07:11:34 PM
Right now Pro models are  201t, 261, 362, 441, 461, 880? and maybe a 201 rear handle.   Steve

These and the 440 and 660 right now.
Stihl MS361, 460 & 200T, Jonsered 490, Jonsereds 90, Husky 350 & 142, Homelite XL and Super XL

drobertson

I would suggest to talk to a dealer. but just to add, I always thought it was the even numbers were professional grade, the odd numbers were consumer grade.
only have a few chain saws I'm not suppose to use, but will at times, one dog Dolly, pretty good dog, just not sure what for yet,  working on getting the gardening back in order, and kinda thinking on maybe a small bbq bizz,  thinking about it,

cuterz

I also feel the pro's are last even number. Plus I think most pro saws have white handles.

Jasperfield

I've used Stihl for more than 32 years, and know their saws to be superior to others. Nevertheless, Stihl is doing NOTHING with their material requirement specifications to suppliers to remedy the adverse affects of ethanol upon Stihl products. And, too, Stihl is not just "apparently", but effectively doing little to help us EASILY determine which product, part, or maintenance operation should be used to circumvent, or get around, their conceited attitude towards users' ignorance relating to product selection, use, or maintenance of product.

I just continue to look at Dolmar, and others, as options. Why does Stihl take the attitude, toward it's consumers, that it does?


Migal

I've used Stihl for more than 32 years

:) If you use their oil it contains a fuel stabilizer and for my saws it has proven to be good for 10 months in a good gas container so far now tomorrow I spose I will need to buy new fuel LOL  :new_year:
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ladylake

Quote from: JohnG28 on January 01, 2013, 10:02:10 PM
Quote from: ladylake on January 01, 2013, 07:11:34 PM
Right now Pro models are  201t, 261, 362, 441, 461, 880? and maybe a 201 rear handle.   Steve

These and the 440 and 660 right now.


I  forgot the 660,  the 440 is replace by the 461.  Also the 460 just got replaced by the 461 , might be some of each at dealers.   Steve
Timberking B20  18000  hours +  Case75xt grapple + forks+8" snow bucket + dirt bucket   770 Oliver   Lots(too many) of chainsaws, Like the Echo saws and the Stihl and Husky     W5  Case loader   1  trailers  Wright sharpener     Suffolk  setter Volvo MCT125c skid loader

ladylake

Quote from: Jasperfield on January 02, 2013, 01:16:17 AM
I've used Stihl for more than 32 years, and know their saws to be superior to others. Nevertheless, Stihl is doing NOTHING with their material requirement specifications to suppliers to remedy the adverse affects of ethanol upon Stihl products. And, too, Stihl is not just "apparently", but effectively doing little to help us EASILY determine which product, part, or maintenance operation should be used to circumvent, or get around, their conceited attitude towards users' ignorance relating to product selection, use, or maintenance of product.

I just continue to look at Dolmar, and others, as options. Why does Stihl take the attitude, toward it's consumers, that it does?


Pro Stihl saws are still good, quality has been going down on the lower models.   Steve
Timberking B20  18000  hours +  Case75xt grapple + forks+8" snow bucket + dirt bucket   770 Oliver   Lots(too many) of chainsaws, Like the Echo saws and the Stihl and Husky     W5  Case loader   1  trailers  Wright sharpener     Suffolk  setter Volvo MCT125c skid loader

AdkStihl

The 441 replaced the 440....not the 461.


You cant go by the numbers whether theyre 1st, 2nd or 3rd. There will always be one saw to throw you off. I know its not a new production saw......but the 041.....considered "PRO"....but yet not an even number.
You just have to know and knowing is half the battle.
If inquiring minds really want to know, check out STIHL's website.

A more accurate method is the color of the rear handle, however.....not long ago I owned and MS270 (number designation depicts a homeowner grade saw).........BUT it had a white rear handle which is considered as a PRO saw. It definetly was not a pro saw. It wasnt homeowner grade, but rather occassional use - the in-between slot they give their saws that are better build clamshells....LOL

So once again.....you really just have to be able to tell the difference between an apple and an orange.
If not.........http://www.stihldealer.net/categoryinfo-dealer-_nyecaa-toplvl-2-catid-2.aspx


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ladylake

 The 461 replaced the 460 just lately.    Steve
Timberking B20  18000  hours +  Case75xt grapple + forks+8" snow bucket + dirt bucket   770 Oliver   Lots(too many) of chainsaws, Like the Echo saws and the Stihl and Husky     W5  Case loader   1  trailers  Wright sharpener     Suffolk  setter Volvo MCT125c skid loader

AdkStihl

Quote from: ladylake on January 02, 2013, 10:55:56 AM
The 461 replaced the 460 just lately.    Steve

Read your post.....#9
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JohnG28

The 440 was still in the catalog as it was re released last year in limited production. The 441 replaced it some years ago, but for 2012 both were available. The 461 I know just came out more or less, haven't yet seen one in person. Sure there's 460s sitting on some shelves still too. Like was said, easiest place to see all for sure is Stihl's website. All mentioned saws are shown there currently, so I imagine all are available. As for the white handles, more models are showing up with them in the mid range as well, such as 311, 391.

http://m.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/
Stihl MS361, 460 & 200T, Jonsered 490, Jonsereds 90, Husky 350 & 142, Homelite XL and Super XL

ladylake

Quote from: AdkStihl on January 02, 2013, 12:44:41 PM
Quote from: ladylake on January 02, 2013, 10:55:56 AM
The 461 replaced the 460 just lately.    Steve

Read your post.....#9

  Made a mistake.   Steve
Timberking B20  18000  hours +  Case75xt grapple + forks+8" snow bucket + dirt bucket   770 Oliver   Lots(too many) of chainsaws, Like the Echo saws and the Stihl and Husky     W5  Case loader   1  trailers  Wright sharpener     Suffolk  setter Volvo MCT125c skid loader

tyb525

Sorry I meant the odd numbers are not considered pro saws.

Yes there is always that one saw, but especially in the smaller saws, homeowner saws are odd numbered.
LT10G10, Stihl 038 Magnum, many woodworking tools. Currently a farm service applicator, trying to find time to saw!

Cut4fun

Quote from: tyb525 on January 02, 2013, 08:27:01 PM
Sorry I meant the odd numbers are not considered pro saws.

Yes there is always that one saw, but especially in the smaller saws, homeowner saws are odd numbered.

???  Can you explain this because I am lost with above post.

024 026 034 036 044 046 066 084 088 were all pro in my eyes

then 241 260 261 360 361 362 440 441 460 461 660 661 880

CCC4

The 362 is the smallest of the Pro models. And Yes, there is a pretty big difference between the 361 and the 362...362 will flat out cut a 361. JMHO

brendonv

Pro saws seem to have white rear handles, home owner black or orange.


EDIT:  Oh man, looks like the new HO saws have white handles too.   :-[
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CCC4

Quote from: Jasperfield on January 02, 2013, 01:16:17 AM
I've used Stihl for more than 32 years, and know their saws to be superior to others. Nevertheless, Stihl is doing NOTHING with their material requirement specifications to suppliers to remedy the adverse affects of ethanol upon Stihl products. And, too, Stihl is not just "apparently", but effectively doing little to help us EASILY determine which product, part, or maintenance operation should be used to circumvent, or get around, their conceited attitude towards users' ignorance relating to product selection, use, or maintenance of product.

I just continue to look at Dolmar, and others, as options. Why does Stihl take the attitude, toward it's consumers, that it does?

Dang...so you own a Husky?  ;D

Cut4fun


CCC4

Quote from: Cut4fun on January 02, 2013, 09:10:23 PM
Quote from: CCC4 on January 02, 2013, 08:57:03 PM
The 362 is the smallest of the Pro models.

Better let stihl in on that secret  :D.   http://www.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/professional-saws/

Ha! I stand corrected! That was the sales pitch thrown at my boss about a month ago. I guess those others are baby pros.  ;D

Ianab

The 362 is probably the smallest saw you would want for actual logging work, but for pre-commercial thinning  the light weight of the 261 is good, and the 201 is more for pruning / arborist sort of work. Lighter cutting, but full time professional use.

So they are "pro saws", just you don't go out cutting forest giants with them  :D

Ian
Weekend warrior, Peterson JP test pilot, Dolmar 7900 and Stihl MS310 saws and  the usual collection of power tools :)

tyb525

With Stihl's new numbering system, the middle number would be even :) the 1's and 2's on the end are basically newer versions of that model.

One of the differences between "pro" and non pro, is the ability to open up the saws and work on them.
LT10G10, Stihl 038 Magnum, many woodworking tools. Currently a farm service applicator, trying to find time to saw!

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