Bottom dogs on a Frick sawmill ?

[A10ECGent]

I have been cleaning, blasting, and painting my Frick 01 and found something interesting. I have not seen any reference to bottom dogs on a Frick circle saw, but I assume that is what these are. The rack that the dogs ride on slides up and down on the ells. These bottom dogs pin to the ells on the back of the dog slide up through the ell and the bottom rack bracket goes through the hole in it. When you dog down the top it pulls the rack up pulling the bottom dog up with it

  

  

 

[A10ECGent]

Just thought I'd add a picture of my freshly painted setworks also. 

  

 

[Don_Papenburg]

Interesting , My  01  does not have that.

[beenthere]

They are nice for holding the dog board on when it is just 4/4 or 5/4 thick.

[bandmiller2]

Probibly seldom mentioned, because probibly seldom used.I've got them on my Chase headblocks and can never remember using them.Suppose if you had a twisty dogboard they might help,most likely not.Watch some of the you tube vids of circlemills most sawyers use minimal doging and usally just the first headblock.I do use the drop dogs on the last board though.95% of my doging is done with a screw dog headblock,it will dog a log or a single board. Frank C.

[Meadows Miller]

Gday

I have never seen them before only manuals i have operated had top dogs only alot of Autos i have used had top and bottoms though I like em on the autos as you can flip cants with them too  ;) ;D 8)

You are doing a good job on the recon though to put another old Circular back in action Mate  ;) ;D ;D 8) 8)

Regards Chris

[dblair]

here's some information on the bottom dogs in picture form

 

[york]

dblair,i would not trust that bottom dog,to mill a log as pictured,nope.....

albert

[CCC4]

Thats pretty neat actually! That bottom dog on a manual mill would have been very beneficial for fast sawing. Your set works bring back alot of memories. Mine didn't work well so I had to run the log in with the foot pedal. That combined with a drifting carriage and shaggin' ass made for what we called E911 sawing, get quota and send the crew home!

[CCC4]

dblair,i would not trust that bottom dog,to mill a log as pictured,nope.....

albert

Now that I think about it, you have a point. How do you set it back? Looks fixed position in the pic. A spring trigger brings top dog in and out, but I see nothing to return the bottom dog back home...hmm! I bet it is for a tie mill set up where they won't be coming in more than 7 inches, jus added clamping for bigger logs. Auto mills, both top and bottom dogs retract on slides at the same time.

[beenthere]

Not much (enough) detail shown in the small pic posted.
Likely not as bad as being mentioned, however. ;)

On the mill I was around, the bottom dog was never out past a 4/4 dog board. And if there was wane and not a square edge, it wouldn't catch hold anyway.

Not seen one as pictured, that would reach a log half that was apparently used for quarter sawing.

[dblair]

 

  I wouldn't trust them either but looks like they used them back in the day . I've got some on my mill, I'll post them another day, but can't figure how to use them . I just was looking through some antique saw equipment and saw this add for bottom dogs , then thought about your post .

[beenthere]

Looks like there is an adjustment where the bottom dog is locked in position as it can slide in/out.
It locks to a vertical bar that raises up when the top dog is lowered to the log.
The combination of the two actions pinches the bottom dog and top dog together.