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Log Splitters: Huskee vs Troy Built, + Cycle Times
« on: October 20, 2012, 06:29:50 pm »
I have narrowed my choices down to two units: The Husky 22T @$1100 from Tractor Supply and the Troy Built 27T @$1200 Lowes. I ruled out the Swisher models because of the poly hyd fluid tanks and mostly because of the stated 24 sec cycle time.

The Huskee says a 13 second cycle, while the Troy claims a 19 sec time. The Troy seems more substantial, and has a Honda vs B&S engine on the Huskee, But the lower cycle time on the Huskee is attractive. Both go horiz and vert, and both have a makeshift log catcher when in the vertical position.

So, am I putting too much consideration on the cycle time??
(BTW, I just retired and this is strictly for my own personal consumption.)
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Re: Log Splitters: Huskee vs Troy Built, + Cycle Times
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2012, 10:11:01 pm »
Six seconds does add up,but I'm not one of these guys that is concerned about splitting a cord in one hour either. I'm not 18 years old anymore and I might like a longer cycle time now.  :(  I would buy the one I like the best and hope I made the right choice down the road.
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Re: Log Splitters: Huskee vs Troy Built, + Cycle Times
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2012, 10:30:04 pm »
Both are made by MTD. I think for $100 more I would lean toward the Honda engine.
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Re: Log Splitters: Huskee vs Troy Built, + Cycle Times
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2012, 12:08:15 am »
I  don't believe the Honda GC engine is worth an extra c note, it is not heir premium model. If it had the GX engine I would say yeah go for it. FWIW, I believe the Huskee unit is built by Speeco, a Blount (Oregon) subsidiary. Either one should be ok as long as the frame is stout enough for prolonged use and the hydraulics are U.S. made with SAE fittings. A lot of off shore junk out there so buyer beware.
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Re: Log Splitters: Huskee vs Troy Built, + Cycle Times
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2012, 12:23:49 pm »
Congratulations on the retirement.  Time comes down to how fast you "realistically" need/want to split your wood.  I'm with thecfarm on the whole time thing.  I don't really pay any attention to the time.  Go at a comfortable pace and you'll get plenty done and still have all your fingers at the end of the day.  Another excellent option is the 27-ton Ariens/Gravely.  I have the Gravely version and love it.  It is rated at 16.5 seconds recycle time but since I cut everything to 16 inches I rarely use the full ram length.  It is smooth and the Subaru engine is very quiet and great on gas.  In vertical position it doesn't even flinch at 24" diameter chunks, knots and all.  For smaller, easy to pick up pieces horizontal is super comfortable and the Gravely version comes with the table included.  Bought it at my local power equipment dealer for $1,699.00. 
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Re: Log Splitters: Huskee vs Troy Built, + Cycle Times
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2012, 01:52:37 pm »
If cycle time is of importance I recommend investigating Kinetic Energy log splitters, the cycle time is 3 seconds total start to finish on each split. Logrite, DR Power Equipment and Speedpro have them. They are able to split two cords of wood per hour and cost just slightly more than hydraulic splitters.
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Re: Log Splitters: Huskee vs Troy Built, + Cycle Times
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2012, 10:38:25 am »
If cycle time is of importance I recommend investigating Kinetic Energy log splitters, the cycle time is 3 seconds total start to finish on each split. Logrite, DR Power Equipment and Speedpro have them. They are able to split two cords of wood per hour and cost just slightly more than hydraulic splitters.

I believe the Logrite units are all more of a wood processor than just a log splitter.  They look like GREAT units, but may be more than PlainDriver is looking for.  Logrite builds them around the SuperSplit logsplitter (with some modifications).

The SuperSplit logsplitters are very well built units, if you are looking for that kind of cycle time.  They are also more expensive that traditional hydraulic log splitters (worth it, if you need the extra production, but maybe not if you have time and are just doing this for a few cords a year?)

The DR Products unit is basically a copy of the SuperSplit (once SuperSplit's patent ran out).  At least DR seems to have done a decent job of copying it.  I've not heard complaints about these units.  DR Products now has a lighter duty model RapidFire Pro, in addition to the Rapidfire Pro-XL.  I've seen the Pro-XL in operation, and it seems well built.  Even the light duty model is significantly more expensive than what the OP is considering.

Tractor Supply Co. used to sell the SpeedPro units - made by Speeco (I believe in China).  These also came out about the time SuperSplit's patent ran out.  When they were available, they were significantly less expensive than the SuperSplit or DR offerings -- but apparently there was a reason they were so inexpensive:  TSC discontinued these due to problems with teeth shearing off the gears (I forget if it was the rack or the pinion gear that had the problems).  Sounded like a problem with using poor quality steel, and/or poorly controlled heat treatment on the gears.  Some people have these units and have gotten good service from them, but there were a number of complaints.
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Re: Log Splitters: Huskee vs Troy Built, + Cycle Times
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2012, 10:51:48 am »
Okay just how many people can load two cords per hour over the course of a day .Lets get real here. On this forum there are way more of us over 50 than there are under 30 .

Now as I type and sip my coffee I have about a cord laying in the landing spot that needs split .Realistically it will take me about two hours today ,maybe longer .No sense making up a story about it because most people know it to be fact how long it takes .

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Re: Log Splitters: Huskee vs Troy Built, + Cycle Times
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2012, 12:11:15 pm »
Okay so here's how that went .At a few minutes till 11 AM EST I walked out of the house,hooked on to   the spitter ,gassed it and pulled it 300 feet to the landing .At a few minutes till 12 I walked back in after splitting about 2/3 cord .In addition to repairing a bar tightener on my neighbors S-25 Poulan .Now I'm having another cup of coffee .

So just how important is cycle time ? That little job was done with a TSC supposidely rated at 28 tons which is highly over rated as far as tonnage .

So say you burn 10 cord a year in about 3-4 days at that rate you'd be done for the year .Plus you wouldn't work your butt off doing it .Food for thought now . ;)

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Re: Log Splitters: Huskee vs Troy Built, + Cycle Times
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2012, 09:01:38 am »
I would go with the Troy built as its a better name. The low end stuff at TC just always disapoints me. I purchased a "Job smart" aircompressor there last year and it wasent very powerfull right from the beginning and never did a very good job running air tool like it said it would. They have cheaply made stuff that get overrated. Now as for the dog kennel and the she i have purchased there. They seem to be pretty decent. I use my fathers Try built splitter all the time and it works great and the cycle time is fast evough where its waiting for you when you go and get another piece to split. Once you get use to it u can really fly with it and split some wood in a hurry.

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Re: Log Splitters: Huskee vs Troy Built, + Cycle Times
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2012, 09:59:04 am »
Oh the price on those things just keeps going up each year . About 5-6  years ago you could buy a 12 HP 5 inch cylinder model for about what you pay for a 4 inch cylinder 6.5 HP splitter now days .

On the other hand if you don't let them sit in the rain for 10 months out of the year and change the oil they will about last forever .A cheap old 10 dollar tarp is about the best thing you can invest in to get some longevity out of one of those things .If not sooner or later you'll become an expert in changing hydraulic hoses.

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Re: Log Splitters: Huskee vs Troy Built, + Cycle Times
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2012, 12:18:21 pm »
I have a SpeeCo 35 ton splitter and it's a well made piece of equipment.   It's got a 14.5HP B&S that runs great and the splitter itself has no trouble busting up the big elm stumps I feed into it.  It has a pretty slow cycle time, but I figured that since I was dealing with heavy, string, knotty wood I wasn't going to be moving fast anyway.  Pick a machine that matches your usual work speed and you'll be happy.

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Re: Log Splitters: Huskee vs Troy Built, + Cycle Times
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2012, 12:51:07 pm »
I looked up that machine and they give it 14 seconds cycle time which is only 1 second slower than a 4" cylinder model .

Now while it reality it's closer to 25 tons than what  they allude to of 35 tons a 5 inch cylinder verses a 4" is the difference between night and day if you are dealing with some tough old wood like elm .

This is basically what my home built uses as far as cylinder size with slightly less power .

If you take two machines ,one with a 5" and one with a 4" on the same size tough old wood the 5" will have a shorter cycle time .The 4" might pressure out long before the 5" needs too and will pop right through a tough old chunk of gnarly wood and never shift into low volume high pressure

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Re: Log Splitters: Huskee vs Troy Built, + Cycle Times
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2012, 09:47:42 pm »
To All: I ended up buying the 27T Troy Built from Lowes. Cost $1283 OTD. We have used it several times, and so far, nothing has stalled it. Mostly maple and wht or red oak. I usually cut the logs to either 22" or 15", as I have a smaller wood stove and a rather large conventional masonry fireplace. (48" deep and 57" across, 38" hi.). Our property has lotsa trees, lotsa lotsa!
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Re: Log Splitters: Huskee vs Troy Built, + Cycle Times
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2012, 09:49:44 pm »
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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2012, 09:53:04 pm »
Glad you are happy with it. I think mine only puts put 23 ton,but have never stalled it out yet.
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Re: Log Splitters: Huskee vs Troy Built, + Cycle Times
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2012, 10:12:25 pm »
 

 
Plaindriver, I have the same machine.  It's 7-8 years old and has never missed a lick.  Since I built a firewood processor, I don't use it much...but the neighbors sure love it.  I can say this has run at least 100 cords through it and it always starts on the 1st or second pull.

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Re: Log Splitters: Huskee vs Troy Built, + Cycle Times
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2012, 07:13:04 am »
Those things have a massively heavy forged steel wedge .In addition it seem to me the front trunnion mount for the cylinder is a better option than most designs .

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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2012, 07:23:53 am »


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Plaindriver, I have the same machine.  It's 7-8 years old and has never missed a lick.  Since I built a firewood processor, I don't use it much...but the neighbors sure love it.  I can say this has run at least 100 cords through it and it always starts on the 1st or second pull.

Thats the exact same splitter i use. I sure love it!
Only thing is that the bolts on the wings / shelvs that come off the main ibeam break ocasionally. I plan to weld these solid when I have a few minutes, and maby make a metal table type thing that comes of the moter side so when i split a big piece I can set half over there while i split the half closest to me in to smaller pieces.

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Re: Log Splitters: Huskee vs Troy Built, + Cycle Times
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2012, 08:05:22 am »
logging,I made a table for the motor side of mine for the same reason. I just made mine out of X4 inch flat stock on edge,about 4 inches apart. It needs a lip on the sides of it or the big piece of wood will fall off. I just have 2 clamps on the edge now. I have a BS with OHV,starts good when it's warm,but anything below 40 it starts hard. At 20 is real bad. I put a magnetic heater on the oil pan and cover the motor and it starts like it does in July.
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