lining a blanket chest with cedar

Dan_Shade · September 09, 2012, 08:12:15 PM

I'm working on a blanket chest.

I'd like to line the box with cedar, but I'm not quite sure how to do the lid. The lid is a breadboard panel.

jamesamd · September 09, 2012, 08:34:41 PM

Dan,No need to apply ceader to the lid the walls and bottom will be enough.
Jim

Dan_Shade · September 09, 2012, 08:46:46 PM

hmm, i figured the top would be needed too.

I don't know how to line the top without using an edge molding, and using an edge molding with the breadboard will probably look funky.

Larry · September 09, 2012, 08:57:50 PM

I've made about forty which were all customer ordered and a couple of different designs. Nobody has ever asked for cedar in the lid...but than again I never thought of doing it that way. I would certainly give it a try if that's what somebody wants. Sketchup would get a good work out until I came up with a design I was happy with.

POSTON WIDEHEAD · September 09, 2012, 09:32:08 PM

Larry, do you have any other pics of your work? Thanks.
The cedar chest in the pic looks very nice.

Larry · September 09, 2012, 09:49:05 PM

There's a few more in my gallery under the woodworking section. I ended up making I think, 12 blanket chests of that design. All for the same family and from trees on there home place.

1woodguy · September 15, 2012, 04:47:14 AM

Hey Larry
Nice looking blanket chest, curious how big is it ?

SwampDonkey · September 15, 2012, 05:21:55 AM

Mom has a blanket chest the school made, probably 50 years ago now. She knew it was cedar lined and didn't know it was a walnut carcass and lid until I told her. I asked her if she knew what kind of wood it was made from and the response was, "some type of wood". :D

Don't line the lid Dan, unless you absolutely want to of course. ;D A lid design like Larry's will keep the moth out anyway. It's the way I did mine and I never used cedar lining. And yup, there are little moths in the house, but they aren't in there. ;)

Burlkraft · September 15, 2012, 09:58:56 AM

I made Jill one for quilts and I would get a picture but I just opened it up and it's stuffed to the brim with quilts.

I went bird's eye maple with walnut accents and t&g cedar inside. The lid too.
The bird's eye came from northern Wisconsin and the cedar from our yard.

I'll have her empty it out and get a pic ;D

POSTON WIDEHEAD · September 15, 2012, 07:31:27 PM

Quote from: Burlkraft on September 15, 2012, 09:58:56 AM

I'll have her empty it out and get a pic ;D

:D You got more nerve than Jesse James! :D

DouginUtah · September 15, 2012, 08:45:50 PM

Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on September 15, 2012, 07:31:27 PM
Quote from: Burlkraft on September 15, 2012, 09:58:56 AM

I'll have her empty it out and get a pic ;D

:D You got more nerve than Jesse James! :D

On the other hand, he knows not to mess with HER stuff. :D

WDH · September 15, 2012, 09:15:58 PM

Just take a pic from the outside

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SwampDonkey · September 16, 2012, 02:14:04 AM

Yeah Steve. You don't need to climb in. ;D

Dan_Shade · September 30, 2012, 09:41:21 AM

My project is moving along, I completed a pretty hairy glueup yesterday, I am seriously considering starting to use hide glue so that I have a bit more time to put the joints together.

The project is built with 1/4 and rift sawn red oak, using a raised panel design that matches a bed that I made a while back.

A mock up of the frame:

The corners are put together with a lock miter bit, this is a picture of test fitting the bottom frame and panel, this is fitted to a 1/4" groove along the bottom edge of the case:

Prefinishing the floating panels:

a knot filled with System Three Epoxy blackened with charcoal dust; I used a file to make dust from a briquette:

the hairy glue up, I think there were 22 we joints, including the bottom frame being glued to the case:

the assembly with the lid sitting on it for perspective. The lid has breadboard ends on it, pegged in place so that any movement should be at the hinge edge of the top:

ready to complete the finish:

I have turned feet still in the lathe, that will get a few coats of finish as well, I'll get some pictures of those later today.

Dan_Shade · September 30, 2012, 10:40:10 AM

Here are the feet:

SwampDonkey · September 30, 2012, 10:56:01 AM

Excellent job. She's sure solid. Nice touch turning the feet on the lathe, they look great and you duplicated them well. Lid looks dead flat. Good stuff. 8)

Dan_Shade · September 30, 2012, 01:02:46 PM

finish on the feet:

finish on the chest:

clww · September 30, 2012, 01:14:22 PM

That looks great!

Magicman · September 30, 2012, 02:46:17 PM

Very nice indeed !!!

SwampDonkey · September 30, 2012, 04:43:43 PM

Coming along nicely. ;D

submarinesailor · September 30, 2012, 06:40:28 PM

Not bad for an Electric Engineer. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Dan - it looks outstanding...~~Good~~Outstanding job!

Bruce

POSTON WIDEHEAD · September 30, 2012, 06:59:42 PM

I'm telling you Dan....ya'll make me SICK!

There is some fine woodworkers on here. ;)

A great God given talent you have......very nice job.

WDH · September 30, 2012, 08:20:00 PM

Wow, that is beautiful. The natural finish really brings out the beauty of the red oak!

grweldon · October 01, 2012, 03:23:50 PM

I haven't seen any answers to your question. It IS a beautiful chest. I think I would consider tounge and groove boards of cedar to line with. Do the bottom first, leaving the ends of the board short of the sides, gluing only in the center (assuming the grain runs parallel to the short sides). For the sides, use the same boards aligned vertically, glued at the bottom edge and hiding the gap from the bottom boards. Machine a piece to cover the ends at the top so that you can leave them free to move a bit. In the corners, it will probably be necessary to mill corner pieces that would cover a gap that covers the board edges on the ends, leaving room for movement.

Obviously there are at least a handful of ways to do this. This is one way. May or may not be the best way...

Tree Feller · October 02, 2012, 09:17:07 AM

And I thought this thread was only aout how to install the Cedar lining.

That's a beautiful chest and very well crafted. The quality shows even in the pics. Well done.

Dan_Shade · October 05, 2012, 08:25:58 PM

I got it all together. Tomorrow, or Sunday I hope to get it lined with cedar.

POSTON WIDEHEAD · October 05, 2012, 08:28:57 PM

Dan, where did you get your hinges?

beenthere · October 05, 2012, 08:38:43 PM

Dan
That is some very fine woodworking there.
The grain matching in the front panels was done very, very carefully or you are just extremely lucky.
Super job.

Dan_Shade · October 05, 2012, 08:44:43 PM

I ordered the hinges from nathan's forge. http://www.nathansforge.com/Nathans_Forge/Hinges.html

I may try to make my own hinges for the next chest I build.

beenthere, I try to match the grain on all of my projects. the front panels are from 2 glued up boards, that were cut in half. I think the biggest mistake amature woodworkers make is not paying attention to color and grain matching.

SwampDonkey · October 06, 2012, 02:47:43 AM

You've done a mighty fine job so far.

8)

WDH · October 06, 2012, 07:59:28 AM

Yes, a very nice piece of work! I am impressed!

Dan_Shade · October 06, 2012, 08:01:57 AM

On most chests that I've looked at with panels, the grain in the panels ran vertical. I decided to do this one with the grain running horizontal.

I certainly welcome (and encourage) any critiques.

WDH · October 06, 2012, 08:04:41 AM

The horizontal lines of the panels forms a nice contrast with the linearity of the styles.

Larry · October 06, 2012, 07:11:55 PM

Quote from: Dan_Shade on October 06, 2012, 08:01:57 AM
On most chests that I've looked at with panels, the grain in the panels ran vertical. I decided to do this one with the grain running horizontal.

I certainly welcome (and encourage) any critiques.

When I first saw your chest I thought of the grain direction. I think it works well. Maybe a more modern look?

Dodgy Loner · October 06, 2012, 11:33:32 PM

Quote from: Dan_Shade on October 06, 2012, 08:01:57 AM
On most chests that I've looked at with panels, the grain in the panels ran vertical. I decided to do this one with the grain running horizontal.

I certainly welcome (and encourage) any critiques.

Traditionally, the grain runs the direction of the longest dimension. So, your panels look just right to my eye. I always think it looks a little awkward when the grain runs along the short dimension of a panel. Plus, it just doesn't make sense to do it that way from a wood movement perspective. I'm glad you trusted your gut because I think you make the right call! It's looking fantastic, very impressive work!

SwampDonkey · October 07, 2012, 03:10:23 AM

With the styles in your piece, it's the best way to orient the grain as you have done in my estimation.

When I built one here from butternut and pine, I had finger joints and ran the grain as you did. Couldn't bring myself to cut up those nice butternut boards into shorts. Butternut and white pine are about the most stable woods one could use. ;D

AK Newbie · November 03, 2012, 11:12:33 PM

Wow awesome job! Thanks for sharing all the pictures! 8)

Peter Drouin · November 04, 2012, 06:33:49 AM

Nice job you did

metalspinner · November 04, 2012, 09:07:03 AM

Very good job! 8)

Did you leave the underside of the top unfinished because you will apply cedar to it? If you are worried about the interior finish smell never going away you could use shellac. My worry for that top panel is that it's unbalanced with just one side finished. It's quite possible the top will cup.