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EZ Boardwalk 40 v. Cook's MP-32
« on: July 23, 2012, 05:01:49 pm »
Looking at purchasing either an EZ Boardwalk 40 outright or going in halves with a friend for a Cook's MP-32 with the 12v up and down and 12 v forward and reverse.  I am leaning towards the Boardwalk simply because for $1,000.00 - $1,500.00 more I would own it outright and I don't see the 12v up/down and forward/reverse making that much difference.  I am 20 years younger than my friend, and i don't mind walking it back and forth whereas he is not so incliuned.  Only other advantage to the Cook's MP-32 deal would be that the friend has the ability to add hydraulic turning and loading as he is mechanically inclined, and I am not. 

Any thoughts?

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Re: EZ Boardwalk 40 v. Cook's MP-32
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2012, 05:27:22 pm »
Welcome to the forum hamptonlawyer!

I can't speak for the EZ however I visited Cooks while contemplating a bandmill purchase. While there I found a great product and very helpful, professional people. In all my time here at the forum, I haven't read a bad word about either mill. Perhaps owners of each will chime in soon. Good luck!

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Re: EZ Boardwalk 40 v. Cook's MP-32
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2012, 05:31:00 pm »
Welcome to the Forestry Forum!
Where are you from? Guessing you are in fact a lawyer, too?
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Re: EZ Boardwalk 40 v. Cook's MP-32
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2012, 06:12:53 pm »
i'm sure you'd be happy with either mill, and owning it outright it tempting for sure, but i'll say this:  the ability to add hydraulic loading and turning would be a major reason for me to consider the cooks.  you may not think you need it now but you may reconsider after loading and turning some big logs.  just a thought...
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Re: EZ Boardwalk 40 v. Cook's MP-32
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2012, 07:14:53 pm »
Welcome , I am fairly new also

Just got home from spending a couple hours with Ed at EZ Boardwalk. Wow what a great guy! He builds a nice mill. Spent most of my time looking at the EZ Jr. But also looked at the EZ 40. Both are very nice well built mills. Ed has it figured out well.
 I just cant see the need for all the bell an whistles.

An you know if you go 1/2's where it is going to be everytime you want to use it. With a dull blade..........lol

Maybe I am thinking too much in to it.

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Re: EZ Boardwalk 40 v. Cook's MP-32
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2012, 08:06:55 pm »
@ DDobbs  I know what you mean about where it would be when I needed it.  That is one of my primary concerns, and I suspect if the hydraulics were added, that would make it even less mobile.  One of the primary reasons I want a mill is to eliminate having to haul logs from my farm to a sawyer.  I have a neighbor with a Cooks mill a mile away who has sawed lumber for me in the past.  Just looking for something I can operate on the farm and not have to worry about loading logs and transporting them.

 @mikeb1079 - I certainly understand about the hydraulics, but if it becomes an issue in the future I can always upgrade to another mill.  Right now this would be for personal use.  If I were contemplaiting doing it full time, then I would definitely go with full hydraulics.  I have a tractor with a loader, so the hardest part of the manual work would be the turning, and worse case I can draft some help. That's my rationalization at this point anyway.  If I am incorrect in any way, please correct me.  I dont pretend to know much about it other than what I have read on here and the limited time I worked with my neighbor on his mill.

@clww I am from Hampton, SC not Hampton, VA, but our oldest is stationed in Alexandria, VA.  I am a lawyer, but don't hold that against me. :-)

Thanks for all of the input.

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Re: EZ Boardwalk 40 v. Cook's MP-32
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2012, 08:39:25 pm »
  I am a lawyer, but don't hold that against me. :-)



HL, Welcome to the Forestry Forum.

We were wondering a few weeks ago if there was a Lawyer on here.....now we have one!  8)
I'm in Rock Hill, S.C. and I have been to Hampton.  smiley_thumbsup Working with the S.C. Forestry, I go to Walterboro sometimes and through all the small towns in between.

As a Lawyer, what field are you in? Criminal, Real-estate, etc. ?

Again...Welcome.

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Re: EZ Boardwalk 40 v. Cook's MP-32
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2012, 08:44:41 pm »
Welcome to the Forestry Forum, hamptonlawyer.   :) 

It may come down as to whether you made a commitment to your friend or not.  Did he think that it was a commitment and what are his plans if you decide to go your own way? 

Personally, I do not like borrowing, lending, or partnerships.  All have the possibility of reducing the number of friends that you have, by at least one.
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Re: EZ Boardwalk 40 v. Cook's MP-32
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2012, 08:56:58 pm »
 

Personally, I do not like borrowing, lending, or partnerships.  All have the possibility of reducing the number of friends that you have, by at least one.

Can't ya see it now: POSTON & MAGIC MAN PORTABLE MILLING LLC.
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Re: EZ Boardwalk 40 v. Cook's MP-32
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2012, 09:16:56 pm »
poston if you join forces with magic he'd probably have to change his business to knothead sawmills.   :) :) :D :D
sorry man couldn't resist.   8)
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Re: EZ Boardwalk 40 v. Cook's MP-32
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2012, 09:19:23 pm »
poston if you join forces with magic he'd probably have to change his business to knothead sawmills.   :) :) :D :D
sorry man couldn't resist.   8)

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Re: EZ Boardwalk 40 v. Cook's MP-32
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2012, 09:28:20 pm »
you sets em up i knock em down.   :) :)

ok back to the thread....hampton your thinking right.  don't get me wrong, you can cut an awful lot of lumber with a manual mill and turning logs ain't that bad.  and your right you can always upgrade down the road.....plus by then you'll really appreciate the hydraulics!   :)
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Re: EZ Boardwalk 40 v. Cook's MP-32
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2012, 12:01:23 am »
I milled with an EZ boardwalk mdl 40 for 3 years. Put a little over 500 hours on the  motor and for the most part it still looked and operated like a new one.
I am sure both mills are good but when comparing them look at this.....
Mp 32- 32'' max cut ( or max log diameter?) and standard 12' cut
EZ- 36'' max cut 42'' throat and standard 16' cut
Keep in mind that any mill can be added to with electric forward rev or up down.I think it would slow down the up/down on the boardwalk to go electric. The push through feed is real easy to do and don't require that much effort. I could and did serveral times cut more than 1000 bdft. in a day on the boardwalk mill with no help.
If you buy the boardwalk or the cook mill, get the log turner set up. they don't cost much and they are worth their weight in gold. Boardwalks work really good on logs too big to be turned with a cant hook.

I too don't like the Idea of partnering on a mill. My dad partnered with a guy on a lime spreader truck once. every time we needed to use it we had to fix it first. If you could do it with someone else, you can do it on your own just as well.

Good luck with your descision. Welcome to the forum. PC
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Re: EZ Boardwalk 40 v. Cook's MP-32
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2012, 08:56:41 am »
Personally, I do not like borrowing, lending, or partnerships.  All have the possibility of reducing the number of friends that you have, by at least one.
Well said; my sentiments exactly MM.

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Re: EZ Boardwalk 40 v. Cook's MP-32
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2012, 09:17:43 am »
I had a budget of 5K and looked all over the board.  I spoke to Ed at EZ and was sold from the get go.  I now own a JR and just love the way it runs.  it is built rugged and simple.

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Re: EZ Boardwalk 40 v. Cook's MP-32
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2012, 10:33:02 am »
First, welcome to the Forum.  I can't help you much on those specific mills but I will add something on the manual versus hydraulic thing.  My first mill was an all manual mill that I ran for about 5 years.  Like you, I had very little exposure to sawmills prior to purchasing my mill.  Using an all manual mill I learned an awfully lot about log handling and learning to 'listen' to what my mill was trying to tell me that I either wouldn't have learned as quickly or at all using a mill with more hydraulics.  Sometimes the answer to a problem is not throw more hydraulic fluid through the lines.  Starting with an all manual mill helped me become a better Sawyer.  My $0.02.
Like several other folks have mentioned, I've shared equipment with someone else and it always caused a problem at one point or the other.  I'd rather have a piece of equipment that's not quite as nice that's available when I need it over a really nice piece of equipment that's not available when I need it. 
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Re: EZ Boardwalk 40 v. Cook's MP-32
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2012, 10:52:03 am »
Could you buy the ez and have your friend add hydraulics in exchange for you sawing a set amount of lumber for him?
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Re: EZ Boardwalk 40 v. Cook's MP-32
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2012, 12:52:14 pm »
@ Poston  I primarily handle real estate and transactional work.  Some litigation.  I know several people with the Forestry Commission, including Pete Stuckey, Terrell Smith, and Dale Mayson, who I beleive is now retired, is a cousing of mine.  Two Commission members are my clients.

I certainly understand the drawbacks of jointly owned property, and have some experience with this as well.  I saw the two of us headed in somewhat different directions last year when we were talking about a mill together, and that is partly why it kind of died on the vine.  We have not talked about the mill in a year, so not sure if my friend is even still interested.  He owns a small pallet company and I approached him with the idea of the mill initially.  I think he just saw it as a way to expand his business and possibly save on raw materials.   The attraction to me was having someone with ready sheds to house it and the ability to do the modifications/upgrades if needed as well as the reduction in cost. When he wanted to go with all of the upgrades and the cost went up, that's when I backed away.

I could always add the hydraulics later, but don't think i need them (but surely will want them when it's hot or I have a big log).  I see the hydraulic loader and clamp as the most useful.  Not worried as much about turning them.  Paul, I appreciate the comment about the log turner, as I wondered whether it would be worth it to buy it from EZ or Cooks or whether I should try to rig up something on my own. The neighbor with the Cooks has an overhead electric winch with a strap that he has rigged to turn his logs and I could probably rig something similar.

Thanks again for all the tips and advice. 

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Re: EZ Boardwalk 40 v. Cook's MP-32
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2012, 03:27:15 pm »
Starting with an all manual mill helped me become a better Sawyer.  My $0.02.

scott

Well said.
The manual mill is a great place to start because it is less initial investment.
The turner that ez boardwalk offers is a hand crank winch. I always loaded mine with a loader or forklift but turning a 30'' log, especially off of a 16'' flat spot or over a knot is not so easily done. The little winch set up makes it much easier. Didn't cost much either.
A shed for a mill can be acomplished real easily, especially if you have some logs you dont ,mind using for framing lumber. Anything from a carport on casters to a chicken house, pole barn, or even a steel framed hoop building works. Some of the guys who saw a lot like magic and chuck dont have a sawshed( i dont think).
I would say that if you have a friend in the pallet business I would say you are set up.I would bet he would buy your lower quality cants or boards.
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Re: EZ Boardwalk 40 v. Cook's MP-32
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2012, 09:13:00 pm »
I have a MP32 and it has done very well for me. I only cut lumber for myself so I did not worry much about hydraulics, money being the big issue. I load with a tractor and FEL. Small logs I turn manually. The larger ones, I put a hook and chain around the log and turn it with the FEL. Not fast but it gets the job done without strain on the back. My MP32 came with a winch for turning the logs but on the larger ones, it need some extra help.  If I were in the market for a mill now, I would consider the MP32