The logs are starting to be hauled in

lyle niemi · July 03, 2012, 05:12:31 PM

Its finally dry enough to get to the logs, I got three loads of spruce so far today and six more loads to come. I hope the rain stays away for a few days so we can get the rest out of the bush.

Jim_Rogers · July 03, 2012, 06:07:35 PM

What are you going to mill these into?

I know lumber; but what sizes and what are they going to be used for?

lyle niemi · July 03, 2012, 06:22:17 PM

Quote from: Jim_Rogers on July 03, 2012, 06:07:35 PM
What are you going to mill these into?

I know lumber; but what sizes and what are they going to be used for?

I will try to get as many 3x12x10s as I can. Its used for under oildield tanks. I possible have a contract for a whole bunch of 6x6x14s also. Of course I will cut whatever people need. 8)

dgdrls · July 03, 2012, 08:06:07 PM

You Cats from Alberta are setting a high bar for us Quebecers!! :D

Is that even a word??? ???

Good to see you up and sawing,

Best DGDrls

ALWOL · July 03, 2012, 10:57:01 PM

Those sure are some nice logs. I hope the rain stays away from you also, and comes on down here. We need it like you wouldn't believe.

SPD748 · July 04, 2012, 04:38:16 PM

Great looking whack of logs you've got there Lyle! I can't wait to see your mill in action.

-lee

lyle niemi · July 04, 2012, 05:13:02 PM

Quote from: SPD748 on July 04, 2012, 04:38:16 PM
Great looking whack of logs you've got there Lyle! I can't wait to see your mill in action.

-lee

Thanx Lee, it was pouring rain this mornin so I could not cut anything without getting soaking wet. It stopped raining this afternoon so I fought the mud and bucked up some logs and just loaded up the skidway. Gonna saw some up right after coffee break 8)

lyle niemi · July 04, 2012, 05:17:15 PM

Quote from: ALWOL on July 03, 2012, 10:57:01 PM
Those sure are some nice logs. I hope the rain stays away from you also, and comes on down here. We need it like you wouldn't believe.

Hi Alan, there is one impressive looking log in that pile, its about 60 feet long and bulky almost to the end, I think Im gonna cry when I attack it with the chainsaw....lol

lyle niemi · July 04, 2012, 06:27:07 PM

Quote from: SPD748 on July 04, 2012, 04:38:16 PM
Great looking whack of logs you've got there Lyle! I can't wait to see your mill in action.

-lee

Here ya go Lee, I cut up one log and had to come and post it fur ya...lol Im like a kid at Christmas time with a new toy, I gots ta show everyone...lol

beenthere · July 04, 2012, 06:41:26 PM

lyle
Thanks for the pics. Sure do enjoy them.

ALWOL · July 04, 2012, 06:44:19 PM

Looks really good. Bet it feels good to sink that saw into some soft straight spruce. Now your gonna need an edger to keep those flat-slabs from piling up on the log deck.

Alan

lyle niemi · July 04, 2012, 07:46:57 PM

Quote from: ALWOL on July 04, 2012, 06:44:19 PM
Looks really good. Bet it feels good to sink that saw into some soft straight spruce. Now your gonna need an edger to keep those flat-slabs from piling up on the log deck.

Alan

You bet it feels good! BUt I gots troubles!!! looks like my 100 dollars 329 needs some lovin. I gots water in me oil...lol I think the O ring on one of the sleeves went....DANG!!! looks like Im back to being a meckanic again...lol

snowshoveler · July 04, 2012, 07:51:42 PM

An edger...geeze don't give him any ideas.
Can't hardley keep up with him now.

Wow Lyle you are certainley getting things done.
Replacing the O rings in the power unit sleeves should take you all of about 10 minutes if the
work done so far is any indication.
Chris

lyle niemi · July 04, 2012, 08:03:25 PM

Quote from: snowshoveler on July 04, 2012, 07:51:42 PM
An edger...geeze don't give him any ideas.
Can't hardley keep up with him now.

Wow Lyle you are certainley getting things done.
Replacing the O rings in the power unit sleeves should take you all of about 10 minutes if the
work done so far is any indication.
Chris

I wish it would only take ten minutes..lol The motor has to come apart and when your that far your gonna do an inframe. Iffin I have all the parts I need it should take about 4 or so hours...??????

snowshoveler · July 04, 2012, 08:12:00 PM

Hi Lyle...
I put rings and O rings in my cat last winter and it took forever to get the parts...
Might have something to do with it being built in 1935.
Does your engine have an oil cooler, they can be trouble on the old cats. Not sure about the Deere.
Regards Chris

ALWOL · July 04, 2012, 11:27:48 PM

Those old engines that have sat for a while will often develop a leak or two. How bad is it? Are you sure it is engine coolant, or could it be atmospheric water? If your 329 has an engine oil cooler, it will be under the engine oil filter and have a couple of collant hoses running to it. If you need another cooler, I may have one or two lying around. If it is the liner o-rings, you are right about just doing a complete in-frame overhaul. I always tell my customers that I can install all new parts for less than what I can clean up and reinstall the old ones. An inframe rebuild kit will run you around 750 dollars.

Alan

Al_Smith · July 05, 2012, 07:01:08 AM

What you might try before you peel that engine down to the bones is water glass ,sodium silicate .You'll have to run straight water ,run it until it gets warm .Then drain the system and let it sit a day or two .After you can anti freeze it if you like .

It would be a monumental pain in the behind to tear that thing down in place just for a couple of o-rings .

lyle niemi · July 05, 2012, 08:36:13 AM

Quote from: ALWOL on July 04, 2012, 11:27:48 PM
Those old engines that have sat for a while will often develop a leak or two. How bad is it? Are you sure it is engine coolant, or could it be atmospheric water? If your 329 has an engine oil cooler, it will be under the engine oil filter and have a couple of collant hoses running to it. If you need another cooler, I may have one or two lying around. If it is the liner o-rings, you are right about just doing a complete in-frame overhaul. I always tell my customers that I can install all new parts for less than what I can clean up and reinstall the old ones. An inframe rebuild kit will run you around 750 dollars.

Alan

Mornin Allan, The leak is pretty bad. The motor was puking out white slush out of the blow by and the rad was down on fluid, it is definatly coolant.
Im gonna price out an inframe kit today or see if one is even available???
All is not lost tho, I left the mill so that I could still run it off the pto of the tractor, I would have just a little bit of messin around to do. I did that because I know what could happen when you take an old motor and put it back to work....anything could happen

lyle niemi · July 05, 2012, 12:32:32 PM

Hi Allan, I just talked to JD and they said all the parts were going to add up to 1800 clams...OUCH! Im still checking into some jobber suppliers

ALWOL · July 05, 2012, 04:39:21 PM

Yeah, no way can you afford to pay JDs price. I will email you a number to call.

clww · July 05, 2012, 05:50:11 PM

Great photos of the sawing in progress. Love to see that circle blade mill! 8)

lyle niemi · July 05, 2012, 06:54:27 PM

I removed the 329 this afternoon and put the ol massey back on the mill. I just have to hook up the hyds now but I will do that in the mornin. Im just to tuckered out to finish tonight. lol

Ga Mtn Man · July 05, 2012, 07:35:28 PM

Wow, very impressive setup Lyle. smiley_clapping Makes my TK2000 look like a toy. I know nothing about circle mills. How often do you resharpen the blade? Is pitch build-up a problem and is any lube used?

lyle niemi · July 05, 2012, 08:33:12 PM

Quote from: Ga_Mtn_Man on July 05, 2012, 07:35:28 PM
Wow, very impressive setup Lyle. smiley_clapping Makes my TK2000 look like a toy. I know nothing about circle mills. How often do you resharpen the blade? Is pitch build-up a problem and is any lube used?

Thanx mtn man! its not really a high quality mill, I did this on a shoe string budget and very short shoe strings ta boot...lol I cant answer your questions yet cause I havnt really done much sawing yet..lol I hope to learn that stuff very soon 8)

Sprucegum · July 06, 2012, 09:46:13 AM

No lube needed, that blade can fling pitch right at ya :D When Lyle gets to sawing I bet he will be sharpening every day.

Sharp blades make happy sawyers ;)

Al_Smith · July 06, 2012, 10:24:11 AM

I did a little net surfing on this engine and if I'm correct on the rebuild kits they fetch around 750 bucks ,after market .J-D at twice the price for OEM is not surprising in the least .Typical I might add on any OEM parts no matter who sells them .Just the way it is .

You know depends on how much you want to stick in it .If it ran okay and just leaked a few o-rings would be dirt cheap verses a rebuild .

Once you get it peeled down and look at the innards you can decide if a rebuild is called for .

Magicman · July 06, 2012, 11:18:46 AM

I know nothing about the sawmill, engine, or the rebuild, but I am also anxious to see you sawing.

Green is the color of envy. ;D

lyle niemi · July 06, 2012, 11:39:09 AM

Quote from: Magicman on July 06, 2012, 11:18:46 AM
I know nothing about the sawmill, engine, or the rebuild, but I am also anxious to see you sawing.

Green is the color of envy. ;D

I just got done hooking up the massey (hyd) Im gonna do some cleaning up around the mill then hack at a few logs 8) Dave 9252 should be up next week end and I will get him to shoot a few videos and post them. I barely know how to post pics...lol

snowshoveler · July 06, 2012, 11:46:23 AM

Hey Lyle...
Save a bit of that lumber to put a roof over your new mill.
At least over the operators position.
I like sawing in the evening when its raining, can't do much else and stay dry.
Looking very good.
Regards Chris.

sandhills · July 06, 2012, 01:12:13 PM

One thing I learned when working on the JD power units, after installing the sleeves always fill the block with water BEFORE putting the rest back together. This will most generally show any signs of bad o rings. I always wondered though if the engine has good compression and runs good, why couldn't you just pull the whole sleeve/piston assembly in one piece so as not to disturb the piston rings, and replace the o rings around the sleeve? Another little trick (you may already know) put emery cloth around a quarter and clean the ever living billy heck out of the o ring grooves in the block, you can spend hours doing this, trust me, but in the end it's worth it.

lyle niemi · July 06, 2012, 02:02:52 PM

Quote from: sandhills on July 06, 2012, 01:12:13 PM
One thing I learned when working on the JD power units, after installing the sleeves always fill the block with water BEFORE putting the rest back together. This will most generally show any signs of bad o rings. I always wondered though if the engine has good compression and runs good, why couldn't you just pull the whole sleeve/piston assembly in one piece so as not to disturb the piston rings, and replace the o rings around the sleeve? Another little trick (you may already know) put emery cloth around a quarter and clean the ever living billy heck out of the o ring grooves in the block, you can spend hours doing this, trust me, but in the end it's worth it.

Actually those are really good ideas. When or if I tear the motor down I will really consider doing what you said. If everything else is good all I would need is a gasket set and some sleeve orings

lyle niemi · July 06, 2012, 02:09:44 PM

Quote from: snowshoveler on July 06, 2012, 11:46:23 AM
Hey Lyle...
Save a bit of that lumber to put a roof over your new mill.
At least over the operators position.
I like sawing in the evening when its raining, can't do much else and stay dry.
Looking very good.
Regards Chris.

You bet! The building is still in the planning stages. I can 99.999999 percent garantee there will be a building up before winter. If I can build it before the wife finds out I will only have to deal with a few minor cuts and bruses...lol Oh! I dang near furgot that she works at the building supply store where I buy all my building materials...How the heck am I gonna swing that deal...lol

Al_Smith · July 06, 2012, 03:47:37 PM

Quote from: sandhills on July 06, 2012, 01:12:13 PM
One thing I learned when working on the JD power units, after installing the sleeves always fill the block with water BEFORE putting the rest back together. This will most generally show any signs of bad o rings.

I have welded the blocks on several Allis Chalmers and Fergusons . If they freeze they crack out right along the lower counter bores for the wet sleeves plus between the cylinders on the top of the blocks .

My method once it was welded and ground out is to install the sleeves plus the head and put 80- 100 PSI air over top a water head to test for leaks .Every so often I'd get a leaker ,not many though .

If you fill the assembley with water right up to the goose neck then fabricate a chunk of hose with an air fitting it's just about the same as using a hydra static test because you have very little volume of air behind it .My method ,maybe not the best but it works .

lyle niemi · July 09, 2012, 06:03:20 PM

5 more loads of logs were hauled in today. It was 92 degrees out there, I could only work outside for about a half hour at a time. To dang hot fur this cowboy!!!