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Started by woodmills1, May 02, 2012, 07:26:55 PM

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woodmills1

can't believe it

have uncoiled hundreds of bands

redoing all my old leftovers, getting some that cut nice

have one that refuses to uncoil, even flung it into sawdust pile, still coiled :o
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ladylake


If you ever get it uncoiled it should cut good as most that don't want to coil don't cut good .  Steve
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roger 4400

 It is a lazy band.... ;)
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Delawhere Jack

Tack welding prankster? ;D

Woodwalker

Quote from: Delawhere Jack on May 02, 2012, 08:40:32 PM
Tack welding prankster? ;D
Super glue would be harder to spot. ;D ;D
Just cause your head's pointed, don't mean you are sharp.

PC-Urban-Sawyer

Quote from: Woodwalker on May 02, 2012, 10:22:14 PM
Quote from: Delawhere Jack on May 02, 2012, 08:40:32 PM
Tack welding prankster? ;D
Super glue would be harder to spot. ;D ;D
Spoken like a man with experience, Woodwalker...  ;D

Herb

tyb525

Have you tried uncoiling it by hand? That's how I always do it, it scares me to do the "toss and run" thing.
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barbender

Watch the WM video on coiling blades and then find somewhere to practice :)
Too many irons in the fire

tcsmpsi

Quote from: woodmills1 on May 02, 2012, 07:26:55 PM
can't believe it

have uncoiled hundreds of bands

redoing all my old leftovers, getting some that cut nice

have one that refuses to uncoil, even flung it into sawdust pile, still coiled :o

Any success yet, or have you let it lie?   Probably left-hand threads.   :D
\\\"In the end, it is a moral question as to whether man applies what he has learned or not.\\\" - C. Jung

Brucer

I have a blade like that. I was resawing a very dry cedar timber for a customer and I didn't clamp it tight enough (for fear of crushing the wood). The timber tore out of the clamp and left a slight but permanent reverse bend in the blade.

Now the blade "wants" to stay coiled. Uncoil it (with difficulty) and drop it on the ground and it tries to coil itself up again ???.

The DanG thing cuts perfectly true. Go figure.
Bruce    LT40HDG28 bandsaw
"Complex problems have simple, easy to understand wrong answers."

WDH

Ty,

I have the toss and run thing down pat  :).
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woodmills1

no matter how I try I cannot get the two to form a cross when the top third is pulled away


believe me I know how to do it and have done it since 1995  not this one
James Mills,Lovely wife,collect old tools,vacuuming fool,36 bdft/hr,oak paper cutter,ebonic yooper rapper nauga seller, Blue Ox? its not fast, 2 cat family, LT70,edger, 375 bd ft/hr, we like Bob,free heat,no oil 12 years,big splitter, baked stuffed lobster, still cuttin the logs dere IAM

Magicman

Instead of dropping the teeth side down, turn it around and try dropping the back (smooth) side down.  Maybe.  ;D
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Nomad

     I had several from one particular manufacturer like that.  Tossing them didn't work.  They also recoiled themselves just by sorta twitching 'em.  I didn't know how to properly uncoil a blade then; at least not reliably.  I just grabbed a couple of coils, yanked, and covered my head. :D
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MartyParsons

Hello,
   The correct term is Coil Set, I have seen blades that would be uncoiled and roll into the coil with out any help.  It would happen if the blade was heated on one side and not the other.  ( Like if your hi performance guides were tight on the bottom).  Once you get this coil set the blade it will not cut very well.
Hope this is what you are talking about.

Marty
"A pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees opportunity in every difficulty." -Winston Churchill

rbarshaw

You need a vise and 3 people in full safety gear, put one coil in the vice with the teeth up and not in the vise so as to not destroy the set, one person on each of the three remaining sides to work at uncoiling it, all three have to work in concert and once it is uncoiled, carry it to the mill which has been setup tp recieve it, put it on with all three still controlling it, need a 4th to tighten the blade in place. This might work  :D :D :D

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Been doing so much with so little for so long I can now do anything with nothing, except help from y'all!
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Chuck White

I think I'd just put a zip-tie on it and put it in the recycle bin, before someone gets hurt!  Just give it up!  whiteflag_smiley
~Chuck~  Cooks Cat Claw sharpener and single tooth setter.  2018 Chevy Silverado and 2021 Subaru Ascent.
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Magicman

Better yet, bring it to the Pig Roast and let everyone see/try it.   :)
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It's Weird being the Same Age as Old People

Never allow your "need" to make money to exceed your "desire" to provide quality service.....The Magicman

Qweaver

Quote from: WDH on May 03, 2012, 10:17:55 PM
Ty,

I have the toss and run thing down pat  :).
I'm glad that I didn't have any coffee in my mouth when I read that one  :D
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woodmills1

yes I know how

yes Itried all combo's from inside and out




glad to hear at least there is an explaination   it still is coiled :D :D :D :D
James Mills,Lovely wife,collect old tools,vacuuming fool,36 bdft/hr,oak paper cutter,ebonic yooper rapper nauga seller, Blue Ox? its not fast, 2 cat family, LT70,edger, 375 bd ft/hr, we like Bob,free heat,no oil 12 years,big splitter, baked stuffed lobster, still cuttin the logs dere IAM

woodmills1

just for grins I threw it way up in the air today...still coiled.... :o
James Mills,Lovely wife,collect old tools,vacuuming fool,36 bdft/hr,oak paper cutter,ebonic yooper rapper nauga seller, Blue Ox? its not fast, 2 cat family, LT70,edger, 375 bd ft/hr, we like Bob,free heat,no oil 12 years,big splitter, baked stuffed lobster, still cuttin the logs dere IAM

rjwoelk

woods did you ever get that blade to uncoil. :D :D :D
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