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Started by wheelinguy, March 24, 2012, 09:14:12 AM

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chevytaHOE5674

Around "here" we have heavy heavy clay soils, so generally you drop a bottom or two off a plow that would be considered "normal" for most other areas. Guy up the road has a JD 70 I think it is and he pulls a 2x16 plow and thats about all the tractor wants in some areas, other areas he could add a bottom.

For comparison I have 2 Allis Chalmers WD-45's and in other parts of the country people pull 3,4,and 5 bottom plows with them. I have a 2 bottom plow that makes those tractors get a work out in our soils.

Okrafarmer

The WD-45 can't hold a candle to the 70 plowing, unless you put bigger tires on it. Even then I doubt it would have the torque. Allis should have known better with those 28" tires. I have seen one at a tractor pull that had 38" rims. It pulled pretty well. But there was no 70 in the pull.
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chevytaHOE5674

I wasn't comparing the WD-45 to the JD 70. Just making the point that because a tractor will pull a 4 or 5 bottom plow in one place doesn't mean it will do it everyplace.

Okrafarmer

Gotcha. At any rate, if both tractors are up to snuff, the 70 ought to outpull the WD-45 by approximately 1 bottom in most any soil.
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Clam77

I grew up with my grandfather's JD 530 gasser... somewhere around 40-50 HP i think-not sure.  All those old 2-lungers pulled like a mule tryna run for it's life.  Work one hard enough for long enough and you'd see flames coming out the stack at times near dusk and into the night.   ;)

As long as you didn't stall them out you could pull them as hard as you could and they'd keep on a putt-putt'in..    8)
Andy

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Clam77

Incidentally, Chevy and Okra, that's how they rated alot of tractors and "crawlers" as they called them back then - how big of a plow they could pull.

One would say they had a 2-bottom Farmall M or a 3-bottom Deere.. or a 4-bottom Cat...   ;)
Andy

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chevytaHOE5674

Quote from: Clam77 on March 29, 2012, 10:35:59 PM
Incidentally, Chevy and Okra, that's how they rated alot of tractors and "crawlers" as they called them back then - how big of a plow they could pull.

One would say they had a 2-bottom Farmall M or a 3-bottom Deere.. or a 4-bottom Cat...   ;)

And they went away from that rating system for many reasons. Different soil types, different plows, different plow bottoms and shares, mounted vs. semi mounted vs. trailer plows, etc all can change what a tractor will pull. So there were plenty of unhappy farmers when their tractor couldn't pull the plow that it was advertised with.


Piston

WheelingGuy,
Congrats on the new tractor 8) 8)

It's always fun to run a new piece of equipment and see what it can do.  I'm still amazed at what my little 45hp can do. 
If you do a lot of work with trees as I assume you do, I can't recommend a front end grapple enough.  Mine has saved me more work than I ever could have imagined.


Some more pics here....
https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=50047.0

Also, I bought a used heavy duty box blade with hydraulic scarifiers for the back of the tractor and had the rears filled, the box blade is double duty for extra ballast but is also more useful than I imagined it would be.  I added Top N Tilt to the rear for hydraulic angling and it makes such a big difference.  You'll have to get around to posting a pic of that new toy of yours!  My next tractor will very likely be a Kioti. 
-Matt
"What the Lion is to the Cat the Mastiff is to the Dog, the noblest of the family; he stands alone, and all others sink before him. His courage does not exceed his temper and generosity, and in attachment he equals the kindest of his race."

Polly

 :D 8)       i bet you my little 45 hp dexter burns less fuel then your biggg jd ha ha  :D ::)

Okrafarmer

Quote from: Polly on April 14, 2012, 09:39:18 PM
:D 8)       i bet you my little 45 hp dexter burns less fuel then your biggg jd ha ha  :D ::)

Not for the same amount of work done. I'd stake my reputation on it.
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markd

Norm, that's the bigger boat I was talking about for removing that stuck swamp Alder!! Markd
markd

Polly

 8)  8) all joking aside jd tractors are all good personally i love the older ones i like to hear the put put sound ,when i got my sawmill i bought a jd 5325 4 wheel drive with a loader to use to move my logs and around the hobby farm my wife says i have ,you all probly know she pays my fuel bill ,the 5325 jd is a 5 cyl diesel rated 60 hp i think ,i did not do my homework before i bought it ,the next bigger jd is a 4 cyl so is the one smaller ,personally i would not recomend anyone buy one like it it in noisy and burns fuel like it has got a big hole in the fuel tank ,having said that it does have pretty paint  :D :D 8) 8)

Okrafarmer

I've heard of 5-cylinder engines before, but I bet it is noisy, probably has a weird firing order. Wonder how hard it is to design one to be dynamically balanced.
He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. Psalm 91:1

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Polly

 8)  i think they designed it to be more pollution free ,when you start  it up the engine goes to full throttle and thens backs off to idle around a 1000 rpm and the smoke rolls until it warms up personally they better stick to the 4 cyl  my favorite is my little super dexta 3 cyl perkins engine 45 hp in road gear around 30 mph it dont know when it hits a hill the gov, opens up and on you go i think they were built for around 6 mo in 1964 the ones before that were dexta or dexter but not the super dexta which has 5 hp more then the dextea :-\

pineywoods

Quote from: Okrafarmer on April 16, 2012, 10:48:01 PM
I've heard of 5-cylinder engines before, but I bet it is noisy, probably has a weird firing order. Wonder how hard it is to design one to be dynamically balanced.
Don't know how hard it was, but the Kubota folks did a nice job on the one I have. smooth as silk, plenty of power and sips the diesel. Chevy makes a 5 cylinder gas pickup.
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Okrafarmer

The first 5-cylinder engine I remember hearing about was an air-cooled SAME diesel, in a tractor around 90-100 hp.
He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. Psalm 91:1

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Now selling Logrite tools!

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Ianab

Nothing wrong with a 5cyl engine.

My Mum is still driving an 80's vintage Audi 100 with a 2.2l inline 5. Very smooth engine. They also did them with diesel and turbo diesel options.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_100

If anything they are smoother then a 6 or 8 as there a no pairs of pistons moving together. Each piston is on it's own timing.

Ian
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