Issues when sawing dead Southern Yellow Pine

valley · November 18, 2012, 10:03:52 PM

Y'all are probably gonna think is is crazy but I have found that when getting pitch build up like that I just simply cut the lube off all together first time I did it was an accident ( ran out and didn't realize it ) went to refill jug and noticed all pitch was gone off Blade and belts Im guessing that it just gets hot enough to allow it to melt away been cutting wet sticky pine like that ever since dry as a bone and have done better than any lube I tried and I tried em all

Okrafarmer · November 18, 2012, 10:24:22 PM

So Valley, you are saying that the pitch is its own lube. Nifty.

valley · November 18, 2012, 11:10:13 PM

Quote from: Okrafarmer on November 18, 2012, 10:24:22 PM
So Valley, you are saying that the pitch is its own lube. Nifty.

Not really sure all I know is it works

Jemclimber · November 19, 2012, 08:33:45 AM

Quote from: POSTONLT40HD on November 15, 2012, 04:21:40 PM
Quote from: grweldon on November 15, 2012, 04:01:33 PM
WDH: I'm not what you would call an environmentalist, but I just don't like the idea of petroleum products being dispersed on the ground in my sawdust. I suppose if I find nothing else that works, I might try it, but I think I'll try a few other things before I go that route.

If your sawing pitchy Pine.....Diesel is the the way to go. I put a cup of Diesel in my lube tank with water......sometimes......only when my blade collects an abundance of pitch. Other wise I keep a spray bottle of Diesel by my mill. When I hear the blade begin to sizzle, caused from build up, I'll spray my blade until it quietens down. You'll spill more gas at a service than you will spraying Diesel on your blade.

Hey Gr,

I'm not sure what you use in your 365, most likely petroleum product bar oil. The 365 mixes much more of this lube in your sawdust than the bandmill does. Just an FYI. Some people use vege oil in their chainsaws though, maybe this is what you feed your Husky.

Al_Smith · November 19, 2012, 08:49:35 AM

Well I've never milled it but can relate to it .Years back when carbide insert blades were quite costly for a hand held circular saw I spent 35 dollars for one because a standard steel blade would dull after about half dozen cuts on SYP .

Prior to I would have never guessed anything with the word pine in it could be so hard .

Magicman · November 19, 2012, 09:20:55 AM

I have seen individual trees/logs that were cantankerous, but those were just oddballs. Sawing SYP is 90%+ of my sawing and probably 75% of that is dead.

The principal issues that I may encounter is "compression wood" in the butt log and knotty top logs.

grweldon · November 19, 2012, 11:29:29 AM

Quote from: Magicman on November 19, 2012, 09:20:55 AM
I have seen individual trees/logs that were cantankerous, but those were just oddballs. Sawing SYP is 90%+ of my sawing and probably 75% of that is dead.

The principal issues that I may encounter is "compression wood" in the butt log and knotty top logs.

That's good to hear! I imagine most of what I saw for quite a while will be SYP. I've had a few knotty top logs, but as soon as I say I haven't had many issues sawing them, I'll be humbled really quick, so I won't say that!

bushhog920 · November 19, 2012, 01:47:36 PM

hey if you need help with sharping i have a cooks sharpener and don't live too far. being able to sharpen and set your own really take the guess work out of sawing problems.

grweldon · November 19, 2012, 01:49:29 PM

Thank you Bushhog! I will certainly take you up on that. You are near Ramer, are you not?

Do you also have a Cook's mill? I'd certainly like to visit and see. You are also welcome to visit my place if you wish...

I have about 6 blades that need sharpening. How long have you been sharpening your blades? I can bring them down to you this weekend if that fits your plans...

DanG · November 19, 2012, 02:24:12 PM

GR, it may be just me, but it looked like the smile in your avatar just got a little bit wider.

grweldon · November 19, 2012, 02:44:54 PM

Actually, If Bushhog is not busy this weekend it's about a 70-mile drive to his place. It would be a good 1/2-day trip if you count visiting time! It's a great time of year to get out driving in the country as well!

I really don't like that picture. Makes me look a bit too...uh...clean maybe? While I enjoy taking nice hot showers after a day's work, I really enjoy getting dirty a bit more! Of course the ultra-hot shower water helps to relax the muscles that I always overwork and pay for in the morning or over the course of a few days. I'm still recovering from two weekends ago when at some point in time (can't pinpoint) I moved my neck and back in a very wrong way!

I can only reminisce about the days when I would lift my head off the pillow and swing my legs over the side of the bed and not feel pain!

eastberkshirecustoms · November 19, 2012, 08:58:58 PM

Yes, but it's the pain that lets you know that you're still alive and kickin' ;)

ely · November 20, 2012, 09:01:37 AM

UINS is more from southern mo. and the dead pitchy pine here i could not saw without a little kerosene and bar oil mix squirted on the blade... i use about 5 squirts per ten foot cut.

grweldon · November 20, 2012, 11:51:24 AM

UNIS?

ely · November 20, 2012, 11:55:27 AM

uins.... :D

Dodgy Loner · November 20, 2012, 12:19:40 PM

Quote from: grweldon on November 16, 2012, 07:59:31 AM
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If your sawing pitchy Pine.....Diesel is the the way to go. I put a cup of Diesel in my lube tank with You'll spill more gas at a service than you will spraying Diesel on your blade.

This may be true, but at a gas station, the spill is most likely on concrete. Gasoline evaporates quickly and has very little oily component. Diesel or Kerosene is quite oily and if mixed with sawdust can migrate. The amounts you are speaking of are extremely small, but environmentally speaking, none is better!

When sawing extremely pitchy white pine, I've used straight diesel, no water, as my lubricant. Works like a charm. Remember, dilution is the solution to pollution ;). The tiny amount that ended up in the sawdust is of no concern to me.

bushhog920 · November 20, 2012, 01:40:31 PM

I live on hobbie rd north of ramer just look for the matt's motor sign 10mi from the eagle gas. would be fun to hang out, I work at hyundai in maintenance so working on sawmills pretty easy compared to cnc machines that have to be accurate down to .001". I am off wed, and thurs. then work nights this weekend so i will be home after 7am and stay up till 10am. been sharping blades for my noorwood for years gotten pretty good at it too. paid about as much for the sharpner as the mill :D

grweldon · November 21, 2012, 08:00:43 AM

Bushhog, we'll have to catch each other when you aren't working night shift. I wouldn't be able to get there before 10 and I bet you'd be tired around that time. Don't y'all switch shifts every 3 months?

I'm committed on Thursday and off Friday... can't make that work! We will definitely get together though! Do you typically work on Saturdays?