Metal X3

[Magicman]

I saw that one of today's logs was from a beetle killed SYP.  The red paint indicated that it was a "bearing" tree which are off of the property lines so I did not give it any thought about metal.   :-\
Zing......zing......zing.  I made it on through the cut but I'm glad that I did not have to go any further.


 
The horizontal lines in the bark were sure giveaways that there was a fence inside, but I just simple failed to notice them.   :-\


 
Two of them are clearly visible on the center slab.

[POSTON WIDEHEAD]

The fence wire probably didn't damage the blade that bad did it?

You had to put on a new blade though. :'(

[Al_Smith]

If I can get the pictures through I'll show you blind luck .

This is an ash that was milled about 6 years ago .My sawyer hit nails about 20 feet up in a woods tree probabley from a tree stand left by a deer hunter .I had no idea one was still imbedded .

I missed this thing with a Freud cabinet blade in a table saw plus a surface planer plus a carbide router cutter . Finished window sill is in the other pic .The nail is still in it .

  

 

[beenthere]

Al
What are we supposed to see in the pics?
The hidden nail that is in the wood but not exposed (as you didn't hit it with anything)?   ;) 

Still hidden to me, so you did good.

I ended up with a bullet in some oak paneling that I sawed out and had milled. Didn't see it until it was up and putting oil finish on it. 

 

[cutterboy]

UH OH, MM, I hope it didn't ruin your blade. Sometimes fences run through the woods where you'd never expect one to be. On my farm out in the middle of the woods I dicovered a tree with very old and rusty barbed wire comming out of it. I looked around and found another tree with signs of an old fence. Following the general direction I found a few more trees that years ago held up a fence. It didn't make any sense to me for a fence to be in that part of the woods, but I guess 80 - 100 years ago that part of the farm may have been much different than it is today.

[jueston]

looks like a fine piece of wood, it just has a little character....  :D :D

[Al_Smith]

Al
What are we supposed to see in the pics?
The hidden nail that is in the wood but not exposed (as you didn't hit it with anything)?   ;) 

Still hidden to me, so you did good.

Look real close at the first picture in the post .You'll see two white marks in the board and right between them a silver thing .That's the nail . I  only found it when I used a belt sander on the back of the window sill

[bugdust]

That's bad, but nothing stops you in your tracks quicker than a porcelain insulator.  :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\

Those darn things were great years ago to hang TV wire, but those small oaks have now grown OVER the insulator and can't be seen otherwise. You can bet the band fines them though.

Just for kicks and giggles I sent it back to WM for resharpening and got a new one in it's place. Yep, you guessed it ...... for a fee.

[beenthere]

..........Look real close at the first picture in the post ..........

Much too much blurred as the first pic looks like a strip of aluminum to me. But I trust you that it is there...somewhere. 

[PC-Urban-Sawyer]

DanG BeenThere,

Since you bought Al's nail, I've got a bicycle in a tree...  :D

Herb

[customsawyer]

You could try to find a cotton picker spindle. ;D Your blade will not leave a mark on it but the teeth will be gone.

[WDH]

Those spindles were popular for use as step-spikes for deer hunters.  They could be anywhere in the first 20'.

[bandmiller2]

Tramp metal gets lonely and likes to have buddies close.When I'am cutting and hit tramp,I usally put the log on the firewood pile especially if its nothing special. Frank C.

[Magicman]

I whacked that one from 20' to 18' and still produced some nice framing lumber.  With a new blade of course.   ;D

[Al_Smith]

All this talk of tramp metal I do believe that once I get the bandsaw completed the first thing on the list will be a good metal detecter .

A 25- 30 dollar bandsaw loop I can stand .A 90 dollar rail and stile cutter or a 100 dollar cabinet blade would rather upset me to say the least .

[Axe Handle Hound]

I don't want to get off-topic too far, but I've heard several times now about how hard cotton picker spindles are and it has me curious as to how they were used/what their purpose was?  I'm wondering why they were tempered so hard.       

[Al_Smith]

I kind of doubt that those of us in the north have much worry about cotton picker parts ending up in a log . Now nails left from deer hunters is an entirely different thing .

I had a hundred year old apple tree get even with me for the mistakes of my youth .I had built a tree house in it when I was about 10-11 years old .Then at around 60 I dead wooded it and hit the nails that were there nearly 50 years with an MS 200T Stihl .Poetic justice perhaps .

[Magicman]

Al, I may check "suspect" trees such as some Cedar and Walnuts, but scanning each log would be very labor intensive.  I don't mean to sound crude, insensitive, or uncaring but since I saw customer's logs and they pay for damaged blades, hitting metal is not a real concern.

I may highlight hitting metal, but it only happens with me very few times during a year's sawing.  I guess that if everyone tells about their metal hitting experiences it may seem like a regular occurrence, which in actuality it is not. 

[Al_Smith]

Yeah I see your point .Fact most folks I know with mills don't have much problem either .

My intent with my homebuilt is more towards my own stuff .Although the mill will be transportable it won't in a true sense be portable .

I learned from my experiance of dragging a D4 Cat all over half of three counties it doesn't pay to do little jobs for every  Tom Dick and Harry who thinks you'll work cheap .

I have no intention of dragging a mill all over half of creation to cut up somebodys yard trees .I'm a nice guy I'm just not that nice . ;)

Due to the fact I have a pretty good relationship with two tree service companies I can get some pretty good stuff for nothing delivered right to the house .So I'm probabley set with  saw logs for ever . 

[bandmiller2]

Al tree service guys are a good place to get logs as their a byproduct to them and they can't keep piling them up.Big pines are too big to chip and no good for firewood,and being yard trees commercial mills don't want them.Metal detectors are not 100% reliable some will miss small stuff especially if its deep.I give them a once over if they look suspicous.Regular nails if hit at right angles are no big deal,but drywall screws , insulators,barbed wire and R/R spikes are.Frank C.

[POSTON WIDEHEAD]

Al tree service guys are a good place to get logs as their a byproduct to them and they can't keep piling them up.Big pines are too big to chip and no good for firewood,and being yard trees commercial mills don't want them.Metal detectors are not 100% reliable some will miss small stuff especially if its deep.I give them a once over if they look suspicous.Regular nails if hit at right angles are no big deal,but drywall screws , insulators,barbed wire and R/R spikes are.Frank C.

And HORSE SHOES!  >:(

[Haleiwa]

I don't want to get off-topic too far, but I've heard several times now about how hard cotton picker spindles are and it has me curious as to how they were used/what their purpose was?  I'm wondering why they were tempered so hard.    

The spindle spins as it passes the boll, winding the lint onto the spindle and pulling it free from the plant.  Since it is a wear item and does not impact anything, the harder the better to prolong its life, as cracking is not usually a concern.  They are a throwaway item, when worn out they are replaced,   not rebuilt.