Bandmill Log Dogs

rbarshaw · January 05, 2004, 08:16:26 PM

;DI've built a bandmill based on all info I could find on the internet. :-/The only thing I could not find is any good descriptions of log dogs. :PAny help there?

'Spose I should have said " log dogs and clamps"?

Haytrader · January 06, 2004, 03:19:18 AM

rbarshaw,

Send me your E mail adress in a PM and I will send you some pics of the dogs on my mill. They work very well.

Furby · January 06, 2004, 03:04:01 PM

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Jeff · January 06, 2004, 03:18:04 PM

Quoterbarshaw,

Send me your E mail adress in a PM and I will send you some pics of the dogs on my mill. They work very well.

Are they patented or top secret or sumpthun? I wanna see em too.

Furby · January 06, 2004, 03:21:38 PM

Jeff, don't you remember the "Log DOGS"???

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

cluckerplucker · January 07, 2004, 05:36:31 PM

Haytrader I am in the orpcess of building dogs and I have been podering over several way. I hav thought of getting 3/4 in pipe slide clamps.Welding 3/8 flat stock to them and mounting 3/4 in pipe at several locations on the mill frame .You would slide it up to the log and turn the flat stock piece ub and wedge lock it .After you have a cant cut you turn the flat stock down and just a 1/2 in lip of the pipe clamp would hold the cant. What do you think ? cecil

Haytrader · January 07, 2004, 06:29:09 PM

But Jeff,

I have yet to take the time to figure out the picture thing and I can zip stuff on regular E mail all day long.
No secrets here..........well.......I ain't tellin ya the combination to the safe.....

8) 8)

D._Frederick · January 07, 2004, 07:26:22 PM

cluncker,
The 3/4 pipe is not ridged enough and bends too easily.

rbarshaw · January 07, 2004, 07:56:12 PM

Haytrader I am in the orpcess of building dogs and I have been podering over several way. I hav thought of getting 3/4 in pipe slide clamps.Welding 3/8 flat stock to them and mounting 3/4 in pipe at several locations on the mill frame .You would slide it up to the log and turn the flat stock piece ub and wedge lock it .After you have a cant cut you turn the flat stock down and just a 1/2 in lip of the pipe clamp would hold the cant. What do you think ? cecil

This is what I have right now, works good, but haven't tried any large logs yet, i'm worried the pipe will bend.

ARKANSAWYER · January 07, 2004, 08:08:48 PM

These are my log dawgs.
This one is LBJ.

This is Runt.

They do a fine job and I have not lost a log yet. They even eat the white grubs in the logs when I am sawing. My customers love them and they have even "marked" the tires on the FF truck. ;D

ADfields · January 07, 2004, 09:24:44 PM

;DAll right Jeff, hear is Haytrader's dogs! ;D And they look like a good way to go. ;)

Haytrader · January 08, 2004, 02:35:24 AM

Thanks Andy,

I swear I will figure the picture posting out this winter, when the weather gets ugly and I have to stay in, if it ever does.
My dogs have yet to mark anyones tires....... :D

Norm · January 08, 2004, 03:58:05 AM

Just cause I told the story about you and the Mrs. sitting on the bench you won't send any pictures to me huh, hey did you get the Europeon version of the Dodge Durango commercial to open. What a hoot, Patty and I about rolled on the floor laughing.

D._Frederick · January 08, 2004, 07:51:25 AM

Hay..-
Nice looking dogs, should not bend, but I have one question. If you have a larger log, does the dog lever get in the way of the carriage, since it sticks straight out?

Larry · January 08, 2004, 04:11:39 PM

Haytrader,
I like your dogs. Look well built and sturdy to me. "D" does have a point on the clamps. I have similar ones but the arm comes off. What kind of mill do you have?

Finally got a pic of my log dog guarding the mill and probably waiting for a bone.

cluckerplucker · January 08, 2004, 04:18:17 PM

Hay trader ! I just figured out how to post a flick .The program that came with the Olympus camera.Go to resize.and reduce the size down to 60x40 pixils,give it a new name and send to your picture file . cecil

cluckerplucker · January 08, 2004, 04:23:02 PM

I screw up I had to get it small to post . But why did it stay small? When I tried to keep it 20% larger it told me I was 22450 and I could not be larger then 15000. So tell me what I did wrong. How wbout it Tom. cecil

ADfields · January 08, 2004, 06:40:07 PM

You got to get that image optimizer from www.xat.com and compress the file size with it.

Tom made a thing spelling it all out but you have 90% of it right so it may be info overload for you.
Look at. https://forestryforum.com/upload.htm
Or you can get there from the "Forum Tools" bar at the top of the pages hear.

The part you missed is the compressing the file size, tom's step number five on that link. You use the image optimizer to make the file small enough to fit and still have a pic that is large enough to see. What you see is what you get, the Forum don't blow it back up. It's not near as hard as it sounds once you get the stuff to work with. Once you get the program if you have trouble with it give a holler, glad to walk past the first one. ;) More pix is more better! ;D
Andy

pappy · January 08, 2004, 06:59:01 PM

My Log Dog is a sullkin kuz it be to DanG cold out side sumpin like -60F (w/ wind chill) ans we's can't be cuttin no logs and just ta hangin round da mill I be bummin real bad

dad can we just go fer a ride anyways? can we can we please please?? :( :( :(

Haytrader · January 09, 2004, 03:58:26 AM

Norm, I didn't think you would like to see pics of a green manual mill since you have a hydraulic orange squeezer.
;)

D, No, they do not get in the way at all. The half moon has been sharpened a bit so it actually cuts into the log with a little pressure. You can tighten it and have the handle parellel with the log.

Larry, The mill is an Oliver, made in Arkansas. It has the sliding peice on four bunks so the dogs can be moved. They will raise about a foot or go as low so I can leave a one inch board.

rbarshaw · January 12, 2004, 03:01:57 PM

I've found how to use 3/4" pipe and pipe clamps, just mount a piece of 2 by wood a few inches to one side of the pipe to take the weight of the log, then your 3/4" pipe won't get bent if you drop a heavy one on it.

DextorDee · January 13, 2004, 06:24:16 AM

If ya running Winxp there is a image resizer on the microsoft web site that is real easy to use.
Download imageResizer.exe ,install ..Jus right click on the image, slect resize pictures. I use the 240 X 320, click ok, the program creates a resized copy of the image.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/downloads/powertoys.asp

shado the log dog

cluckerplucker · January 13, 2004, 04:33:37 PM

I thank you for the info Dexter Lets see if I can make it work?

cecil

tawilson · January 13, 2004, 04:36:44 PM

Thank you for the image resizer tip. I was looking for one for someone on another forum the other day and couldn't find one. Never thunk of Powertoys.

Haytrader · January 13, 2004, 04:55:30 PM

DextorDee

Useing your instruction..........

.........I think I finally posted a picture.... Yahoooooo
I'll be dangerous now........ :D

Fla._Deadheader · January 13, 2004, 05:12:21 PM

8) 8) Bout DanG time, Trader 8) 8) ;D ;D ;D ;D

ADfields · January 13, 2004, 05:17:43 PM

Thats what I had and it gave me some trouble getting some pix to post hear so I went with the XAT and love it! 8)
Andy

Haytrader · January 13, 2004, 05:38:24 PM

DeadHeader,

You shore is right.
Why.....I was M barrassed cause I couldn't get it pigured out.
Now, I will have to take me ol trusty digital camera and take a few pictures of the southwest Kansas forests.

;D

Minnesota_boy · January 13, 2004, 05:59:29 PM

Haytrader,
Be careful how you aim that camera so you get both trees. Wouldn't want to miss half of Kansas' forest.

:D :D :D :D ;D

Fla._Deadheader · January 13, 2004, 06:24:56 PM

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Haytrader · January 13, 2004, 06:29:05 PM

Minnesota_boy,

Howd you know?
You been here, ain't ya?

;)

Minnesota_boy · January 13, 2004, 06:43:12 PM

Only twice, about 30+ years ago. Have they grown much?

ADfields · January 13, 2004, 11:54:38 PM

I was gonna say " Them corn stalks get on the big side in Kansas to be calling them forests" :D :D :D

Haytrader · January 14, 2004, 02:51:19 AM

Just wait, I'll show you guys.
There are three creeks close by and the cottonwoods grow pretty big. If I hold the camera just right.......
;D
Or.........I'll slip across the line and take a pic of all the "Okie" cedar trees, in fact, I am headed south with a load of hay in a bit, so I will take the camera and try to get a shot. Will have to get it on the way back as it will be still dark when I go by the first time.
;)

Norm · January 14, 2004, 05:01:40 AM

All right Haytrader! 8) 8)

Now who's going to hold the camera so we see a shot of you and your lovely wife snuggling on the front porch. ;D

Nice pic of your mill cecil.

Haytrader · January 14, 2004, 10:47:12 AM

Well, I got some pics of the Oklahoma cedars, from the tool box on my truck. They are not good pics cause of the sun, but you can see there are a lot of cedars. I read some where how many acres are lost per year to cedar tree invasion, just in Oklahoma. I will try to remember to look that up.

The ranchers pay custom tree cutters @ $50/hour to cut them but the biguns are in the bottom of the canyons. I have 50 and 100 ft. cables to pull them out with. That is about as close as you can get with a tractor.

Norm, Can you tell I am ignoring you? ;)

Larry · January 14, 2004, 05:28:03 PM

Haytrader,
Now that you have the picture thing figured out hope to see some of that ERC on your mill. Always had a fascination with cedar. We have a lot or it in N Missouri but it is all a lighter pink color and not the dark red that comes out of the Ozarks and Washita.

Do the cutters use one of those clipper machines to clear with or is it manual labor with a chainsaw?

Haytrader · January 14, 2004, 07:59:41 PM

Larry,

They use a couple methods, one is a shear and one is a hydraulic saw with a blade similar to the ones on the swinger sawmills. Here is a link to a business that shears and has some good pics of it.

www.cedarbegone.com

I found the Oklahoma Agriculture site saying the amount of acres lost to cedars each year. It is 782 acres.

rbarshaw · January 20, 2004, 06:49:09 AM

I get it! Here is my log dog.

cluckerplucker · January 20, 2004, 04:31:29 PM

Haytrader Built my dogs today like the ones you have with one modification. I took a 7 1/4 in plywood blade that was dull , cut it in half and welded on top of half circle for teeth.I wonder if I could patent it? thanks Cecil