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Offline pappy19

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Re: Diesel Pickups
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2011, 10:46:43 am »
As a dedicated Ford man, I have to say that the 6.0 Ford/International diesel engine did more to sell Dodges and Chevy's than all of their commercials combined. The list of TSB's(Tecnical Service Bulletins) is enormous and only about 50% of the entire batch of 6 leakers have had no problems. The 6 leaker will plague Ford for 25 years in the future, but the dealers love them, great shop time. One thing about it, every Ford dealer in North America has an expert shop mechanic for the 6 leaker. That's the biggest reason I went with a V-10 in 2008; never had a hickup in 91,000 miles.

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« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2011, 12:36:27 am »
As a dedicated Ford man, I have to say that the 6.0 Ford/International diesel engine did more to sell Dodges and Chevy's than all of their commercials combined. The list of TSB's(Tecnical Service Bulletins) is enormous and only about 50% of the entire batch of 6 leakers have had no problems. The 6 leaker will plague Ford for 25 years in the future, but the dealers love them, great shop time. One thing about it, every Ford dealer in North America has an expert shop mechanic for the 6 leaker. That's the biggest reason I went with a V-10 in 2008; never had a hickup in 91,000 miles.

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Re: Diesel Pickups
« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2011, 07:43:22 pm »
My understanding is that the reason International was able to get by with the EGR treatment ,instead of DEF,  is because they had some sort of pollution credits (cap and trade?) that they could apply to their engines, otherwise their non DEF engines don't actually meet the new emission standards. I run a 97 Dodge with a 5.9 Cummins, all mechanical. I'll run that just as long as I can. I will say, while I think alot of these emission standards are overboard, the new engines really run nice. I can't speak for the pickup engines much, but I have run a few late model heavy trucks with cummins ISX engines, they run so much nicer and smoother than some of the old mechanical diesels. But then the price of these engines is what you would have paid for a whole truck 30 years ago.
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Re: Diesel Pickups
« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2011, 10:31:47 pm »
I did become somewhat enlightened the other day about Duramax. I have a family with 3 of them, two brothers and a Dad. Seems at 200K or there abouts they go thru a head gasket. I had not heard of this issue before with that engine. All three hit 170-190-200 respectively and needed head gaskets. FYI.

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Re: Diesel Pickups
« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2011, 05:27:07 pm »
Does that mean that Steve will need a headgasket in 150K more miles?  Wonder what Jill will do with the other head.....gasket  ???
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Re: Diesel Pickups
« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2011, 08:26:44 pm »
I did become somewhat enlightened the other day about Duramax. I have a family with 3 of them, two brothers and a Dad. Seems at 200K or there abouts they go thru a head gasket. I had not heard of this issue before with that engine. All three hit 170-190-200 respectively and needed head gaskets. FYI.

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The Duramax has had Headgasket issues from get go. The aluminum heads are a source of this.. I have fixed 5 Different 6.6l Duramax's with head or headgasket issues, Always get the Heads checked if their is a Headgasket failure. plus early D-max (LB7) were known for Injector issues.

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Re: Diesel Pickups
« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2011, 10:26:41 pm »
Thanks for the input. I am not a GM guy, but usually I get wind of this kind of stuff at some point.

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« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2011, 11:22:37 am »
This makes my old '85 F250 with the 6.9 diesel look better and better  :).
BTW, the truck I drive on my paying job is a 2010 F250 with the urea tank.  We've run it through the winter with no noticable problem with the urea freezing.  Of course, that's in NC not Minnesota.  It rarely gets below 0 (F) in my part of the world.
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« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2011, 12:57:49 am »
Currently I am driving a 83 ford f-350 and have been wishing for a new one soon.......wether that will happen or not depends on a lot of things as you guys will all well know.  But I was wondering does the Dot have the right to pull over pickups to check for the DEF fluid?  even if they are not used as commercial vehicles?  What would happen if the systems were removed after intitial purchase? I'm not advocating doing something illegal here I'm just saying that it makes more sense to me to have the better fuel economy than to loose fuel economy to the DEF system and have to buy more fuel to do the same job.  I would be willing to bet that emissions from the DEF engines will not change a thing in regards to the amount of actual pollutions in the atmosphere when you factor in the lose of efficiency on the part of the engine.
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Re: Diesel Pickups
« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2011, 07:00:19 pm »
Look in Truckpaper, and find the truck you want with a 7.3. You are a Ford guy right?

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Re: Diesel Pickups
« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2011, 08:19:22 pm »
Currently I am driving a 83 ford f-350 and have been wishing for a new one soon.......wether that will happen or not depends on a lot of things as you guys will all well know.  But I was wondering does the Dot have the right to pull over pickups to check for the DEF fluid?  even if they are not used as commercial vehicles?  What would happen if the systems were removed after intitial purchase? I'm not advocating doing something illegal here I'm just saying that it makes more sense to me to have the better fuel economy than to loose fuel economy to the DEF system and have to buy more fuel to do the same job.  I would be willing to bet that emissions from the DEF engines will not change a thing in regards to the amount of actual pollutions in the atmosphere when you factor in the lose of efficiency on the part of the engine.

Does MN do Emissions Testing? If yes, you have too keep the DEF/DPF systems intact at least long enough to get tested then remove, but be able to reinstall for next years testing. I know of a few 2011 Fords running with No DEF/DPF systems and Tuning and are cranking out stupid power and pretty awesome MPG's.

 BUT!! If your using your truck for Work, running Commercial License plates the DOT can pull you over and inspect the truck.. Will the DOT officer know whats supposed to be on the truck, prolly not but it could happen