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Crosswoods model 30 manual bandmill
« on: February 24, 2011, 09:39:55 am »

I have been looking at mills for a while.  I intend on going to the sawmill shootout at the Paul Bunyan Festival later this year to see as many mills as I can.  However I have come across a lightly used mill at a reasonable price and would like your opinions.
2009 Crosswoods model 30
13 hp Greyhound with electric start
trailer package
loading ramps
electric loading winch
handles up to a 30" diameter log, not sure if it 8 or 10' log length
about 30 hours of use
Heres a link to a youtube video on it.                       http://www.youtube.com/user/sawmiller47
It looks like a nice manual mill, I am waiting for a call back on more information on this mill.  But untill then what is your opinion on it?
I have been looking at manual mills like the Ez boardwalk and the Norwood.  How do you think this mill compares to those mills.
Thanks for your input! :)

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Re: Crosswoods model 30 manual bandmill
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2011, 10:16:14 am »
Looks like a pretty good manual mill!  It'll get the job done!

I think the first thing I'd do is to figure out a way of opening the side of the blade cover (on the off side) and make a chute for the sawdust to exit instead of just falling all over.

If you get much sawdust on the rail, it'll make for some uneven lumber!

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Re: Crosswoods model 30 manual bandmill
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2011, 10:17:39 am »
i cant see all in the video.
my major concerns are
 this mill needs a handle to push the head that isnt attached to the cutting assembly. notice in the video he is pushing on the blade guard with his right hand. on the cable lift heads you can cause the head to deflect by pushing down on it up to 1/8 '' very easily. that will be reflected on the boards.

2 post head may not be as stable as the 4 post head. i  only bring this up since you are comparing them to norwood and ez boardwalk. 2 post heads do work. wm makes the lt 10 that is a 2 post. many guys here have those and they work well.

blade guides are a very important part of the mill and in the video you cant see them . they need to be adjustable in every direrection.

i really couldnt see the log clamp either.

keep in mind that logs are heavy and the frame needs to be pretty heavy to put up with the weight and jostiling around. the tubing that mill is made of needs to be at least 1/4'' wall.

it does look to saw well and the one in the video i would imagine to be 12' cut or so. and a good deal is a good deal. if it works and saws straight  and the price is right it may do everything you need.pc
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Re: Crosswoods model 30 manual bandmill
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2011, 12:23:36 pm »

I have an update of info for this mill.
Crosswoods is made in Illinois and is a fairly new company.  This mill is a variant of there standard manual mill.  It has been custom sized for the current owner.
It will cut 10'- 6" logs
has 16" bandwheels, but similar mill on website has 19" wheels, so im not exactly sure on the size yet.
Blades guides are adjustable
The frame is made with 2" x 3" x 3/16" steel tube
The owner thinks it takes 13' blades, is this a standard length?
The greyhound motor is a honda knockoff motor with one year of warranty left

Im currently waiting on photos of the mill which is generally kept outside but motor has been covered.
Current asking price is $4250 and its 7 hours away from me.
I do agree it needs a handle for pushing it through the cut and the dust collection needs a exhaust port away from sawyer!
Still up in the air on this one.  I really like the EZ Boardwalk Jr. and the Norwood lumberlite 26.  Im thinking I need to wait till after the sawmill shootout before I pull the trigger on a mill.  But I just dont want a good deal to slip away again! :-\

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Re: Crosswoods model 30 manual bandmill
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2011, 12:56:17 pm »
i dont know about current prices but the last time i checked the ez boardwalk jr was quite a bit cheaper than that. i was wondring about that motor. i had never heard of greyhound motors before.

19'' band wheels is kind of a stndard size but there are many other sizes.availability is pretty key, if you ever broke or otherwise ruined one  could you buy another wheel? 
 
i think that the ez jr has a 4'' heavy channel iron frame. norwood 26 you make your own frame and it comes with a track.

generally, blades can be made of any length. length does determine cost. most any manufacturer  or saw shop can make blades to fit any sawmill.

happy hunting.  pc
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Re: Crosswoods model 30 manual bandmill
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2011, 01:06:50 pm »
Is this a poll? ;D  If so, I vote for letting the current owner keep it.  It just doesn't seem like that good of a deal to me.   I would feel differently if the price was $2500, but you could get a brand new LT10 for that money.
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Re: Crosswoods model 30 manual bandmill
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2011, 04:01:00 pm »

I received some pictures this afternoon.  The mill is not what I had pictured from the description.  Sorry about the tiny photos, its the only way I can upload them. :(






The motor is one of harbor freights knockoffs. ::)  The mill isnt as hardy as the description sounded. :o  He did say he was negotiable on the price after I saw the pictures.  But I think I will be waiting till the sawmill shootout this fall! 8)

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Re: Crosswoods model 30 manual bandmill
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2011, 05:20:49 pm »
Tomb,

Harbor freight mills may be more robust than the one you have pictured...and a 13hp motor pulling through 30" of wood? a little underpowered if you ask me. definitely hold out for a better saw...you'll be glad you did.
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Re: Crosswoods model 30 manual bandmill
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2011, 05:37:43 pm »
If you go to www.ezboardwalk.com, there are prices, and also they are putting together a schedule of events that they will be at.
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Re: Crosswoods model 30 manual bandmill
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2011, 07:15:33 pm »
no no no....
20 hp pulling the band thru 30 inches of wood is a LITTLE underpowered.  pc
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Re: Crosswoods model 30 manual bandmill
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2011, 01:28:44 am »
Tomb,

Have you thought about building your own mill? quite a few guys here have built mills that could go toe-to-toe with the big boys and for less $$$. if you have the skills and some patience you could probably build a great saw.

Chet
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Re: Crosswoods model 30 manual bandmill
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2011, 07:44:15 am »
Look at Linn Lumber's web sight before you buy anything other than one of the major mill makers. I have one and couldn't be happier.
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Re: Crosswoods model 30 manual bandmill
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2011, 08:27:03 am »

5quarter, I have enough projects to know NOT to get involved in building a mill!  :o
LPitt, I took a look at the linn mills, nice looking mills but I think I prefer the EZ Boardwalk setup, and pricing.  I think unless a steal of a deal comes along I will wait till the Paul Bunyan show and the sawmill shootout before purchasing any mill.

Ive been looking for a couple of years now and unfortunately let a couple of sweet deals pass me by.  You know hindsight is 2020. 
I appreciate everyones help and suggestions on the mills, hopefully I will get the chance to meet some of you at the show!  Thanks and have a great day. 8)

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Re: Crosswoods model 30 manual bandmill
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2011, 01:59:27 pm »
Tomb,

Have you thought about building your own mill? quite a few guys here have built mills that could go toe-to-toe with the big boys and for less $$$. if you have the skills and some patience you could probably build a great saw.

Chet
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Re: Crosswoods model 30 manual bandmill
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2011, 06:32:07 pm »
For the money i would really lean to a LT10 but then my blood runs orange on mills and green on tractors.

Just took a look at the some of the Shoot Out pic and notes. kinda looks a lot orange to me so far.

Think id be looking LT10 OR 15 if i were in your boots.
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Re: Crosswoods model 30 manual bandmill
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2011, 09:25:11 pm »
tomb, it looks like another version of Bill Rakes simple sawmill. 
Built my own band mill with the help of Forestry Forum. 
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Re: Crosswoods model 30 manual bandmill
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2011, 07:56:25 am »
Hey Tomb,

I'm in your neck of the woods, and have a TA Schmid manual mill.  Let me know sometime if you want to take a look.

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Re: Crosswoods model 30 manual bandmill
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2011, 10:10:31 am »

Sounds good to me, thanks for the invite! ;D

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Re: Crosswoods model 30 manual bandmill
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2011, 06:40:00 pm »
No problem, probably be sawing on Saturday.

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Re: Crosswoods model 30 manual bandmill
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2011, 06:59:38 pm »
Hey Tom

I like your website and you do some very nice woodworking. Really like the entertainment cabinets you build.

Fred
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