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Offline old joe

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A whack of goats
« on: September 18, 2010, 09:21:03 am »
Last month I traded a logger 5 young goats for 5 cords of sawlogs.  He gets his kudzu eaten, I get logs to cut.  The logs are not perfect, big knots on some, twisted grain, but I can get the lumber I need to add a sun room and what doesn't make lumber will make firewood.  Now if my slightly broken body will cooperate ........

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Re: A whack of goats
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2010, 12:35:11 pm »
  are not perfect, big knots on some, twisted

For a minute there I thought you were describing the goats.     :D   Yup, if both of you are happy, it was a good trade.   :)
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Re: A whack of goats
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2010, 12:50:50 pm »
I bartered for some new  continious gutters installed by a local gutter company, The owner needs firewood and i needs gutters.
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Re: A whack of goats
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2010, 08:53:59 pm »
I'm a country boy. Money doesn't mean much to me. I just barter my way through life.
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Re: A whack of goats
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2010, 09:32:12 pm »
Old Joe, you didn't say what breed of goat and is it a standard goat per cord all the time or was it a good deal for you? Frickman, I'm so old fashioned when I read your blurp at the bottom of your post that said " conventional hand felling " I thought you meant with an ax and crosscut until I popped my brain into the present and remembered modern harvesting machines. Makes me feel like Paul Bunyan.
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Re: A whack of goats
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2010, 09:54:08 pm »
r.man,

I use a chain saw, but I still know how to use a double bit ax and crosscut, one and two man both. They may be a bit dull but I still have the old tools in the garage if I need them.

I still have all the tools to put up corn in shocks and every few years or so I make several shocks. Just so I know how to do it if I have to.
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Re: A whack of goats
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2010, 10:36:53 pm »
Frickman
Do you get the old binder out and bind some corn bundles?  or hand tie them?
That should be fun.
As a kid, I liked binding oats and corn. Didn't like shocking the bundles tho.
And just wasn't very good at shocking oats. At 13, just didn't get the hang of it and took a lot of ribbing from the farmers who whipped them together with a good rain cap in no time flat. They usually come back by mine and "straighten it out a bit"  ;D
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Re: A whack of goats
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2010, 10:39:39 pm »
Whelllll you certianly got the better end of that deal..... I have SEEN what goats can do:

Eat all the bark off the fruit trees, jump on cars, break off the windshield wipers, Poop on the cars, snort, run, jump, and BOUNCE off the sides of cars, and come back for more. Eat the clothes off the line, and by the time they are done, well, they really need their own place to live... like in a zoo, or with REAL good fences.

Goats. Makes me shudder!

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Re: A whack of goats
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2010, 10:47:52 pm »
beenthere,

We cut them by hand. We never had a corn binder. I've been looking at getting one though for making shocks for decorations. That's a big business in my area now. Too big to make them by hand. I never got onto making oat and wheat sheafs and shocks. I always liked making corn shocks though.

In the old days they'd leave the shocks in the field to dry until they could get around to husking the corn. Sometimes they'd spend half the winter husking, just doing it from time to time weather permitting. Someone would always carry a gun as the shocks were favorite hiding places for rabbits.
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Re: A whack of goats
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2010, 11:50:35 pm »
Whelllll you certianly got the better end of that deal..... I have SEEN what goats can do:

Eat all the bark off the fruit trees, jump on cars, break off the windshield wipers, Poop on the cars, snort, run, jump, and BOUNCE off the sides of cars, and come back for more. Eat the clothes off the line, and by the time they are done, well, they really need their own place to live... like in a zoo, or with REAL good fences.

Goats. Makes me shudder!


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Re: A whack of goats
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2010, 11:57:25 pm »
                                                                   well, they really need their own place to live... like in a zoo, or with REAL good fences.
a neighbor once told me that if your fence wont hold water it wont hold goats. pc
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Re: A whack of goats
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2010, 12:13:50 am »
Whelllll you certianly got the better end of that deal..... I have SEEN what goats can do:

Eat all the bark off the fruit trees, jump on cars, break off the windshield wipers, Poop on the cars, snort, run, jump, and BOUNCE off the sides of cars, and come back for more. Eat the clothes off the line, and by the time they are done, well, they really need their own place to live... like in a zoo, or with REAL good fences.

Goats. Makes me shudder!

:)

Funny story though!

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Re: A whack of goats
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2010, 12:15:46 am »
that goat is king of the truck.  pc
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Re: A whack of goats
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2010, 08:01:35 am »
Goats consider poison ivy fine dineing,they will flat clean out an area.They can pirch on top of a 4" six foot high post,and love big bolders.My first job as a kid was cleaning out under a goat barn,of course back then I'd do anything for BB money. Frank C.
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Re: A whack of goats
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2010, 01:49:41 pm »
We raise goats for meat and milk.  We make cheese and tan the hides.  The goats are Nubian/French alpine and are pretty good sized,  and they flat love kudzu!!  Each year I have to cull the herd an sell a bunch of goats.  Yeah we both got a good deal.  Even if it takes months to cut it's OK        I don't have to feed logs!!
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« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2010, 04:54:42 pm »
Dairy breeds are selling for about $1.00 a pound at the local auction. Meat breads $1.35 a pound.
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Re: A whack of goats
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2010, 06:32:01 pm »
Paul a fence would have to hold a lot of water to hold a goat. I'm not sure which is worse, a sheep, which is really stupid, or a goat which is really smart. Mind you if a pig could climb we would be saying nice things about owning goats. I am partial to Nubians though and I have often thought that it would make more sense to keep large numbers of goats instead of cattle. In Ontario we have a quota system for milk so if you want to legally sell cows milk you have to buy a quota and it is very expensive. No quota system for goats milk and it's considered greener than cows milk which means quite a bit these days.
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Re: A whack of goats
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2010, 06:51:38 pm »
Here in east central Alabama they bring  a little less at auction.  I generally try to sell them off the farm.  They  sell at a premium because they are so well tended and are friendly.
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« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2010, 09:43:15 pm »
Paul a fence would have to hold a lot of water to hold a goat. I'm not sure which is worse, a sheep, which is really stupid, or a goat which is really smart. Mind you if a pig could climb we would be saying nice things about owning goats. I am partial to Nubians though and I have often thought that it would make more sense to keep large numbers of goats instead of cattle. In Ontario we have a quota system for milk so if you want to legally sell cows milk you have to buy a quota and it is very expensive. No quota system for goats milk and it's considered greener than cows milk which means quite a bit these days.
i think you are on to something. niche markets usually have a bigger profit margin.  pc
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Re: A whack of goats
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2010, 12:41:10 pm »
My thought would be to run goats thru mill ;D ;D ;D NZ power fence will hold em But after my experiances with goats why would you want to keep blasted thing in rather than OUT
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