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More Free Logs
« on: August 24, 2010, 09:18:00 pm »
Did I mention that I like free logs. I picked up two trees this week. Well not actually picked them up, because they are still standing. A 30" DBH White Oak yesterday, and then a 26" DBH SYP today. Lightning got both trees, and actually cut the top out of the pine. The pine top is in the foreground. Both are easily 50' trees.

I'll saw framing lumber from the SYP and 1X12 siding from the White Oak. My Son and I have a couple of building projects that we discussed Saturday and didn't know where we were going to get the lumber from.

Driving home this afternoon, I spotted another even larger lightning struck SYP, and I know the landowner.  ;)




Lightning cut the top (lying in the foreground) out of this 26" DBH, SYP.
 


A very nice 30" DBH, White Oak.

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Re: More Free Logs
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2010, 09:43:13 pm »
I see some quartersawing in your future  :D.
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Re: More Free Logs
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2010, 09:49:55 pm »
Magic do you do your own felling on the big ones?
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Re: More Free Logs
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2010, 09:59:01 pm »
I see some quartersawing in your future  :D

Actually, I plan to just flat saw 1X12's for board and batten to cover a building.

Magic do you do your own felling on the big ones? 

Oh yes, I'll fell them.  Sadly, there is really no place to saw the SYP, so I'll have to load and haul it out on my trailer.  I'm thinking that I can saw the White Oak on site, but I'll have to clean up.  The landowner wants the tops sawed into firewood, and I'll carry the slabs to my "meat smoking man".   I'll burn the small stuff around the stump.  Cleaning up is what the oak is costing me.
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Re: More Free Logs
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2010, 11:34:27 pm »
free is THE best price. pc
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Re: More Free Logs
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2010, 08:27:45 am »
Yup!  Free is good most of the time!
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2010, 08:34:39 am »
i have turned down some of that ''free'' stuff when i get the condition'' if you cut up the firewood for me and clean up the brush''   pc
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Re: More Free Logs
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2010, 02:17:27 pm »
Hey if you aint on PM shutdown, all woodsawing and clean-up is reeelax'in as far as I'm concerned. My 2%. Wait...cept when it's 100^ degrees...then it's all work....Nice Majicman! I love the free ones too. I've had to turn down some since I started sawing in May cause I can't move em yet. bought an old backhoe loader and when I get the hoe valvebody and the flat slow leaky back tire repaired at least I'll be able to unload at home. Need the trailer next. - "Maybe after the new year" He said, with fingers crossed.
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Re: More Free Logs
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2010, 08:36:50 pm »
Free logs just got me thinking I've never paid a cent for logs or for that matter firewood all they've ever cost me is the labor to cut and or handle them.The tree guys around here chip everything they can because its hard for them to dispose of larger pine logs,few commercial mills here and they don't like road/yard trees.Frank C.
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« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2010, 11:14:57 pm »
frank, you have a sweeeeeet deal. dont forget it. pc
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Re: More Free Logs
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2010, 06:57:04 am »
Yea Paul I feel like yogi bear,of course if I had to make a living doing this it may be a different story. Frank C.
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« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2010, 07:47:42 pm »
Hello, everybody.  I am just a newbie around here, so, "Hello!"

Anyways, I live in NW Florida and I noticed something that really bothers me... 

I LOVE the quality of the hardwoods up north (I grew up in central Michigan), but it seems that there is a lot of competition for the wood.  I could be wrong, but there seems to be a lot more timber men up north than there is down here where I live.  Not only that, but because of the colder climate, whatever timber is not cut up for lumber is most definitely cut up for burning in wood stoves or furnaces.  So, it seems that, while a lot of the best wood is up north (or at least away from here), there is too much competition for it and it seems like it might be harder to make a profit up there since you have to pay for most of the wood.  (I would love to go back to Michigan and enjoy some cooler weather to cut lumber in and fill my folk's pole barn.)

Now, for the part that really bothers me...

Here in Florida, I constantly see tons of wood being wasted.  In fact, we have entire dumps dedicated just to taking in timber, mostly from tree services.  After Hurricane Ivan, MOUNTAINS of good timber was ground up and hauled off, oak and pine and whatever else you could imagine.Much of it was ground into mulch or chips, but it still seemed like such a waste.  Whenever I have seen a new super Walmart or Lowes or Home Depot being built around here, it invariably is being built on at least 40 acres of the best oak timber around.  And, when it is not during a time of hurricane cleanup, where do you think it all goes?  In dumpsters and dump trucks that head straight to the dump where all of that good wood is buried.  (They used to burn it at some dumps, but I think that has pretty much ceased due to air pollution.)

All of that waste sickens me.  If only that wood were utilized for something... maybe the southern yellow pines could be cut up into lumber to build homes for the poor or homeless, or maybe even for affordable assisted living facilities.  The oak, well, if they are not grandiose and statuesque red oaks that are soaring into the heavens, so what?  At least they could be cut up for flooring or firewood at the very least.

Have any of the rest of you noticed this disparity in availability of lumber between southern areas and northern ones and the mindsets that go along with it?

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Re: More Free Logs
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2010, 07:56:02 pm »
Stephen,up here in the northeast alot of the chips go to power plants to generate power.Some gets ground up for mulch.I'am surprised that more of your southern wood waste is not processed into products like chipboard.Frank C.
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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2010, 08:37:59 pm »
Frank,

If the timber is owned by one of the paper companies, it will be used up.  There is a paper mill nearby that grinds up their trees and makes paper, of course.  Other companies do use their timber to make OSB, but I don't think they do that much around here anymore.  There used to be a LP plant that did that on down the road in Holt, FL, but they closed their doors years ago.  Actually, they are selling a lot of their land to the state now.  I think Weyerhauser is over in MS using a lot of chips, but it seems that I am sitting in a hole that used to be all big timber companies that have been selling off their land and closing plants around here.  Mybe it is due to cheap imports we are getting now.  I don't know.

As far as power plants are concerned, the only one that we have around here is the Gulf Power plant on the Escambia River in Cantonment (or north of Pensacola), but all they want to burn is coal.  I would not be so sick if I knew that the wood was at least being used for something rather than being buried in the ground.
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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2010, 07:11:48 am »
Stephen,those tree service folks that dump those logs in the landfill would be a good supply for your milling,talk to them most will drop the logs at your mill free if you cut some stuff for them when they need it.Just tell them no crap just millable logs,most have to pay to dispose of logs they can't chip.Frank C.
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« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2010, 07:38:06 am »
Stephen,those tree service folks that dump those logs in the landfill would be a good supply for your milling,talk to them most will drop the logs at your mill free if you cut some stuff for them when they need it.Just tell them no crap just millable logs,most have to pay to dispose of logs they can't chip.Frank C.

I agree.  I have already talked to some of them and they would love to drop off the wood as long as it was not too far out of their way because it costs them money at the landfill.  Also, the landfill is a little drive away, so that helps a lot.  I will just have to be careful about metal in the trees.

People also frequently give away trees around here.  Sometimes they ask you to haul everything away, sometimes they only ask you to haul off the logs.  Not too long ago, a fellow on Craigslist offered 10-30 acres of mature southern yellow pine for free if someone would just haul them off.  Another guy had 30-40  20" average logs that a tree service cut down and piled up by the road.  He just asked someone to take the logs.  He would take care of the stumps and tops.  It is like that all of the time down here, especially with SYP.  Tree services love to get rid of heavy oak logs and SYP.

Now, I just have to get that big WM sawmill and a place to put the wood.  Then I will be all set.  LOL...
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Re: More Free Logs
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2010, 09:22:58 am »
Gday

Magic you will get some nice looking timber out of those two for sure Mate  ;) ;D ;D 8) 8) 8)

And welcome to the Forum Stephen  ;) ;D 8) 8) I know what your saying about the timber wastage its going on all around the world Mate  :o :) ::) ::) :( :'( that being said salvageing timber has a bit of a knack to it andif your looking to get into salvaging timber from tree loppers esp  ;) you have to set down some guidelines as to what makes a sawlog log and what you will take for your operation as some of them tend to push the friendship sometimes as ive had 36' end dumps arrive that had nothing but crap apart from one or two good logs dumped ontop down in melbourne  when i was managing a mill there I use to look each load before it got dumped if it was any more than 30% of the load that was useless to us id pull the good ones out with the crane  and tell them to take the rest back to the job then do a load to the tip  ;)as sometimes they where just trying to save on tip fees  Mate ;)  :D :D :D

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Re: More Free Logs
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2010, 09:30:53 am »
You guys and your free straight trees  ::)  ::)  ::)

Every free tree I have gotten around here would make bad firewood  :D  :D  :D
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« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2010, 10:26:53 am »
You guys and your free straight trees  ::)  ::)  ::)

Every free tree I have gotten around here would make bad firewood  :D  :D  :D

I hear ya'.  I know folks do not have such a tendency to waste wood up north there.  It is too cold and too many people can burn wood.

As far as the free logs go, I would have to talk to the tree guys for sure to make sure I was getting good quality.  Otherwise, I figure I might be able to hire some young guys with strong backs to cut the wood either into smaller pieces that could be sawn into flooring, or split it and wrap it to sell in those little bundles of crap they sell every winter at all a lot of the gas stations and grocery stores around here for bonfire or fireplace wood.  They sell those little 3/4 cu. ft. bundles for $3.50 to $5.00 now and they usually have nothing more than cut up slab wood in them. 

I don;t know if I could find any young men that want to work hard anymore.  It seems like the breed died out with my generation and older, but maybe I can.  If so, then firewood processing might give them a job, generate a little cash, and save the wood from the dump.
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« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2010, 12:23:26 pm »


I don;t know if I could find any young men that want to work hard anymore.  It seems like the breed died out with my generation and older.


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