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Started by Magicman, May 12, 2010, 09:04:43 PM

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Magicman

Well after 34 months, I guess that I got my money's worth.  They gave me a $17.50 warranty credit.



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bandmiller2

For the service its seen,you've got fair value.Is that considered a deep cycle battery??Frank C.
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sgschwend

Good picture, but you need to connect those lead colored little horse shoe shaped things, to those fat round posts on top, for the battery to work.

It may be important which wire goes where, not sure about that, so if you make these connections and things run backwards just turn the battery around.

I had a pick-up once that had the battery in backwards, ran great!!  Best truck I ever had.
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Magicman

Quote from: sgschwend on May 12, 2010, 09:38:03 PM
Good picture, but you need to connect those lead colored little horse shoe shaped things, to those fat round posts on top, for the battery to work.  

:D :D :D  Yup, that was the old one coming out.  I put the digital VOM on the alternator, and it read 14.52 volts.  $20 per year is pretty good service.  Good thing about this setup is that it is impossible to reverse the polarity.... ;)
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DanG

Quote from: sgschwend on May 12, 2010, 09:38:03 PM
I had a pick-up once that had the battery in backwards, ran great!!  Best truck I ever had.

There were some vehicles made with a "positive ground" system, where the positive terminal was the one wired to the chassis.  It really doesn't matter, as long as everything is wired accordingly.
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I had an Austin-Healey sprite back in the '60s. I'll always remember written there on the speedometer were the words - Positive Earth.  :D
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Magicman

Seems like I remember that our old "49 Chevy had positive ground.  I do know that I replaced the battery backwards and Dad made me turn it around.  Made the "genny gauge" read the wrong way.  That battery was under a panel under the passenger's floorboard.  Of course the starter was just to the right of the accelerator...... ;D

Gotta be "mature" to remember stuff like that..... smiley_confused
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trapper

my international 300 tractor is 6 volt negative ground. 
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Slabs

My Dad had a Long/Leyland tractor and installed a new battery and wondered why the battery was discharged while driving from the tractor shed to the house where I was working on something else.  My "turning the battery around" really freaked him.  There was a plackard on the instrument panel (Smith gauges) somewhere between the cigarette lighter and the horn button that said "This vehicle is wired Positive earth"  I like to try to mimic a brit accent when I quote that one.

Oh yeah, it also had a license plate bracket.
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bandmiller2

What they told us in the navy is if you hook the battery up backwards your lights will cast shadows,your horn will $uck,and the radio will listen to you.The old stuff reversing polatity only affected the charging circuit,new stuff with puters your in deep do do. Frank C.
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bandmiller2

Speaking of batteries,back when I was gainfully employed had a $700.00 battery tester slickest thing since clean underwear, hook it up and it would tell you everything about the bat.Used to go over to the town recycling area and test discarded batteries about 25% were good just needed a good recharge.Frank C.
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Magicman

Yup, a bad alternator has caused many batteries to be replaced.  That's why I got the old "digital" out and tested mine.  I know that the WM "idles" high enough to maintain the charging voltage.  I was surprised to see that mine was 14.52-14.51 volts idling or running.  No difference.
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shinnlinger

my '52 GMC is positive ground,  I pulled it out of a field but noted it had been converted to 12 volts at some point so I just dropped a new (to the truck) battery and brought the truck back to life.  Things were great until I noticed the ammeter was discharging as I was driving around like Slab's dad.
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Magicman

Remember before 12 volt systems were the normal, we could buy 8 volt batteries and use them in place of the 6 volt.  They would kick the starter over faster.  Made the headlights brighter also. smiley_idea
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Slabs

Quote from: shinnlinger on May 16, 2010, 01:25:30 AM
my '52 GMC is positive ground,  I pulled it out of a field but noted it had been converted to 12 volts at some point so I just dropped a new (to the truck) battery and brought the truck back to life.  Things were great until I noticed the ammeter was discharging as I was driving around like Slab's dad.





If it was "converted" to 12 volts it was probably retrofitted with an alternator which is negative ground.  If so, just reverse the leads on the back of the ammeter and the needle will point in the right direction.
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pineywoods

Quote from: Magicman on May 16, 2010, 02:48:40 PM
Remember before 12 volt systems were the normal, we could buy 8 volt batteries and use them in place of the 6 volt.  They would kick the starter over faster.  Made the headlights brighter also. smiley_idea
MM, you can still get 8 volt batteries. Golf carts use 6 of them to run 48 volt electrics.
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bandmiller2

Its pretty much standard procedure if I get an old tractor thats 6v to change over to 12v with an alternator.12v won't hurt the starter so long as you don't engauge it too long, amperage=heat is what kills starters.Frank C.
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